WN going to Hawaii
Oct 11, 2017, 11:04 pm
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Southwest started by flying Dallas-Houston-San Antonio-Dallas, basically the same thing.
Makes perfect sense to me!
Oct 11, 2017, 11:18 pm
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Very sweet icing indeed. Would love to see that.
Many engines are not, no. But I believe it's mainly an issue if the short stage lengths are flown over and over all day long. A flight here or there isn't going to hurt anything in the long-run. HNL-KOA/ITO are longer than some of WN's current flights anyway. And maybe the MAX engine handles them better. I don't know.
Many engines are not, no. But I believe it's mainly an issue if the short stage lengths are flown over and over all day long. A flight here or there isn't going to hurt anything in the long-run. HNL-KOA/ITO are longer than some of WN's current flights anyway. And maybe the MAX engine handles them better. I don't know.
Oct 11, 2017, 11:52 pm
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Oct 12, 2017, 12:07 am
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Now, the speculation begins as to how WN will connect Hawaii to the Midwest, Southern, and East Coast cities. Redeye flights out of Hawaii and/or redeye flights from the West Coast to Midwest/East/Southern focus cities???
Oct 12, 2017, 3:21 am
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Apparently they are actually considering this?
"Southwest executives also acknowledged that they are evaluating offering interisland travel — a move that would cut into Hawaiian Airlines’ stranglehold in the islands and potentially hurt smaller local carriers Island Air, Mokulele Airlines and Makani Kai Air. In addition, Southwest said it is considering nonstop flights to neighbor islands."
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/1...ce-on-the-way/
"Southwest executives also acknowledged that they are evaluating offering interisland travel — a move that would cut into Hawaiian Airlines’ stranglehold in the islands and potentially hurt smaller local carriers Island Air, Mokulele Airlines and Makani Kai Air. In addition, Southwest said it is considering nonstop flights to neighbor islands."
http://www.staradvertiser.com/2017/1...ce-on-the-way/
Oct 12, 2017, 6:43 am
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If they were not serious about going/selling to Hawaii or bother pursuing ETOPS mx certification for their mechanics or putting in for FAA ETOPS certification (which they expect to get), why even bother putting out the news as such a big deal or make such a production over it? Its a lot of confidence and a big "to do" if they weren't so serious about it happening. Not to mention, they're putting them in a huge PR hole they put themselves in if it doesn't happen.
Oct 12, 2017, 6:52 am
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Oct 12, 2017, 6:54 am
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If they were not serious about going/selling to Hawaii or bother pursuing ETOPS mx certification for their mechanics or putting in for FAA ETOPS certification (which they expect to get), why even bother putting out the news as such a big deal or make such a production over it? Its a lot of confidence and a big "to do" if they weren't so serious about it happening. Not to mention, they're putting them in a huge PR hole they put themselves in if it doesn't happen.
Yes Aloha did it in the past with 737's, however as pointed out this was done with the 200's. Aloha tries it with non-200 versions of the 737 as well and it didn't work as there is not enough ground time for the engines to cool. This is why the 717's are used on those routes by HA. The only way interisland flying could work with their fleet is using a triangle route. OAK-HNL-OGG-OAK. Also keep in mind that some additional time on ground is usually required due to ETOPS checks which take place as well on the engines.
Oct 12, 2017, 7:13 am
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Oct 12, 2017, 7:17 am
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Oct 12, 2017, 7:34 am
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Oct 12, 2017, 8:07 am
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November 2 for travel through August 12:
https://www.flyertalk.com/wiki/index...ension_history
So no flights to Hawaii before August 13.
https://www.flyertalk.com/wiki/index...ension_history
So no flights to Hawaii before August 13.