FYI: ECBI - may lose when changing flights on new system
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: LAS
Posts: 211
FYI: ECBI - may lose when changing flights on new system
I do not believe I have seen this reported here, apologies if it already has been. I called into WN to change a flight that was booked for my partner and me. Partner is A-list and CP holder, I was flying as companion and bought Early Bird.
We were changing city pairs on our flight change and the agent said that unfortunately in the new system there was is no way to keep EBCI when city pairs change, if we wanted to do the change to different dates but keep the same cities then I could have kept EBCI, but by making the change I would forfeit my prior purchase and would need to buy again if I wanted EBCI.
I kept my same confirmation number. In the past keeping same confirmation number allowed you to keep EBCI, now that seems it is no longer the case. The agent said that was a benefit of the old system that is no longer possible on the current.
I am not sure what would happen if this was a less complicated booking and changed all online for a single passenger changing city pairs, but I assume ECBI would be lost in that case too.
We were changing city pairs on our flight change and the agent said that unfortunately in the new system there was is no way to keep EBCI when city pairs change, if we wanted to do the change to different dates but keep the same cities then I could have kept EBCI, but by making the change I would forfeit my prior purchase and would need to buy again if I wanted EBCI.
I kept my same confirmation number. In the past keeping same confirmation number allowed you to keep EBCI, now that seems it is no longer the case. The agent said that was a benefit of the old system that is no longer possible on the current.
I am not sure what would happen if this was a less complicated booking and changed all online for a single passenger changing city pairs, but I assume ECBI would be lost in that case too.
#2
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
I'd recommend contacting Customer Relations for an official answer. It's possible this is yet another "system limitation," or it's equally possible that the rep who made your itinerary change didn't know how to do it without a full cancel and rebook.
For what it's worth, Southwest hasn't updated the FAQ to indicate any change in policy.
For what it's worth, Southwest hasn't updated the FAQ to indicate any change in policy.
#4
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: Southwest RR, DL SkyMiles, AAdvantage
Posts: 130
Perhaps they are getting ready to implement different pricing based on city pairs. $15 seems high for a short flight from DAL-HOU for example, but low for BWI-OAK. Maybe changing city pairs and keeping EBCI will not be allowed in the future.
It's just another reason I don't buy it. The main problem I have with it is they don't limit the number per flight so you could pay to be in the C group and get stuck in a middle seat. If I get a late number at T-24 I'll consider doing the $40 upgrade.
It's just another reason I don't buy it. The main problem I have with it is they don't limit the number per flight so you could pay to be in the C group and get stuck in a middle seat. If I get a late number at T-24 I'll consider doing the $40 upgrade.
#5
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 921
$15 seems high for a short flight from DAL-HOU for example, but low for BWI-OAK.
If they were to lower it for short flights, then you'll have the problem you mentioned in your 2nd paragraph...too many people buying it.
As far as having EBCI and getting the C group in a middle seat...has this ever happened to you, or are you just coming up with reasons not to buy it?
#6
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: Southwest RR, DL SkyMiles, AAdvantage
Posts: 130
The length of the flight shouldn't matter. Some people just don't want the middle seat. Other people may have a connecting flight, and want to be up front to get off quickly.
If they were to lower it for short flights, then you'll have the problem you mentioned in your 2nd paragraph...too many people buying it.
As far as having EBCI and getting the C group in a middle seat...has this ever happened to you, or are you just coming up with reasons not to buy it?
If they were to lower it for short flights, then you'll have the problem you mentioned in your 2nd paragraph...too many people buying it.
As far as having EBCI and getting the C group in a middle seat...has this ever happened to you, or are you just coming up with reasons not to buy it?
#10
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 14
I just changed a points reservation online to a new date and new destination city, and the updated confirmation no longer shows EBCI. I remember seeing the expected warning about it becoming a non-refundable reservation, but no warning about losing EBCI.
The only reason I did a change instead of cancel/rebook was to keep the EBCI.
If that no longer works, there is really no reason to ever modify a points reservation any more.
EDIT: Just realized the original flight was within 25 hours of departure when I made the change, so that does align with the posted policy.
The only reason I did a change instead of cancel/rebook was to keep the EBCI.
If that no longer works, there is really no reason to ever modify a points reservation any more.
EDIT: Just realized the original flight was within 25 hours of departure when I made the change, so that does align with the posted policy.
#11
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
I just changed a points reservation online to a new date and new destination city, and the updated confirmation no longer shows EBCI. I remember seeing the expected warning about it becoming a non-refundable reservation, but no warning about losing EBCI.
The only reason I did a change instead of cancel/rebook was to keep the EBCI.
If that no longer works, there is really no reason to ever modify a points reservation any more.
The only reason I did a change instead of cancel/rebook was to keep the EBCI.
If that no longer works, there is really no reason to ever modify a points reservation any more.
#12
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: LAS
Posts: 211
Closing the loop on this one - I submitted a complaint through the online form on 8/22 - the same day they responded to say it was being forwarded to customer relations. Eventually received a phone call (ignored, voicemail left) and text message on 9/7 stating that because of the new system there is no way for them to carry the EBCI to new city pairs, but that they would refund my purchase, and that if I wanted it on the rebooked trip I can add it myself. So they ruled in my favor but I wouldn't hold my breath on this being an option in the future.
#13
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
Very odd. Last week I changed a MDW-LAS trip with EBCI attached to MDW-DEN, and the EBCI transferred over correctly. (I received a not-great boarding number, but I expected that due to the lateness of the change.)
Southwest hasn't updated their EBCI FAQ to give any indication that this is now how the system works.
OP: Did both of your cities change?
What exactly did that text message you received say?
Southwest hasn't updated their EBCI FAQ to give any indication that this is now how the system works.
OP: Did both of your cities change?
What exactly did that text message you received say?
#14
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 5,813
If not what could it be?