Please help this WN Noob with a seating question
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Please help this WN Noob with a seating question
I've only flown WN a few times over the years, and it's always been a very good experience. I am one of these people who cares about where he sits especially on transcons. A window seat forward from the wing is important to me.
Next month, my employer has me flying Business Select from BWI to PHX on an 8:00 am flight. Since this is the only direct that works on that route around that time, I'd prefer to stick with WN. I'm hoping my chances of getting that wing-forward window seat are decent with a BS ticket and position A1-15. But I know there are no guarantees. On my last flight from BWI to TPA, there were 15 or 20 pre-boarders and a lot of thru passengers. That was an afternoon flight and Florida flights are notorious for having lots of senior citizen pre-boarders. The people who paid for early boarding were very angry. I was BS, lucked out, and got the last window in front of the wing.
Just wondering if you WN regulars and experts can provide any insights: Am I likely to find a lot of thru passengers on an 8:00 am flight? Is there any way to see where the plane is coming from?
Finally, I know that my obsession with being wing-forward at a window sounds ridiculous to most of you. Years ago, I was on a flight that was forced to make an emergency landing after several PAX and crew were injured from severe turbulence (Not on WN). I was in a rear aisle seat and was hit by a stray food cart. Since then, I've had anxiety about flying-- but nothing I can't handle as long as I avoid the back of the plane.
Next month, my employer has me flying Business Select from BWI to PHX on an 8:00 am flight. Since this is the only direct that works on that route around that time, I'd prefer to stick with WN. I'm hoping my chances of getting that wing-forward window seat are decent with a BS ticket and position A1-15. But I know there are no guarantees. On my last flight from BWI to TPA, there were 15 or 20 pre-boarders and a lot of thru passengers. That was an afternoon flight and Florida flights are notorious for having lots of senior citizen pre-boarders. The people who paid for early boarding were very angry. I was BS, lucked out, and got the last window in front of the wing.
Just wondering if you WN regulars and experts can provide any insights: Am I likely to find a lot of thru passengers on an 8:00 am flight? Is there any way to see where the plane is coming from?
Finally, I know that my obsession with being wing-forward at a window sounds ridiculous to most of you. Years ago, I was on a flight that was forced to make an emergency landing after several PAX and crew were injured from severe turbulence (Not on WN). I was in a rear aisle seat and was hit by a stray food cart. Since then, I've had anxiety about flying-- but nothing I can't handle as long as I avoid the back of the plane.
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Could theoretically have a few thrus (looks like the aircraft starts its day in Manchester). But you'll still get a window seat, likely towards the front of the plane. You definitely won't be relegated to the far back of the plane under any circumstances. There shouldn't be a horde of preboarders, all flying solo and taking all of the window seats!! Most BSers are going to want forward aisles and exit row.
Also, WN doesn't roll drink carts through the aisle. The FAs take your order and prepare the drinks in the galley. You could take an aisle seat without worrying about that particular injury on Southwest.
Also, WN doesn't roll drink carts through the aisle. The FAs take your order and prepare the drinks in the galley. You could take an aisle seat without worrying about that particular injury on Southwest.
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Most passengers want an aisle seat. That includes pre-boarders, through pax, and anyone ahead of you in BS. Thus, the chance that you won't get a decent window is really small and at least a mediocre window, truly infintesimal.
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NO! Little known & common misconception. You're guaranteed a A1 to A15 BP and a free drink, that is it.
Of little practical significance unless you want an exit row, I've seen A1, A2 and A3 trip & sprint to the only 3 desirable exit row seats (the 4th is a middle) and I've seen them not care either. Depends on the WN sophistication of the traveler. An almost transcon, I'd bet on the former..
Of little practical significance unless you want an exit row, I've seen A1, A2 and A3 trip & sprint to the only 3 desirable exit row seats (the 4th is a middle) and I've seen them not care either. Depends on the WN sophistication of the traveler. An almost transcon, I'd bet on the former..
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NO! Little known & common misconception. You're guaranteed a A1 to A15 BP and a free drink, that is it.
Of little practical significance unless you want an exit row, I've seen A1, A2 and A3 trip & sprint to the only 3 desirable exit row seats (the 4th is a middle) and I've seen them not care either. Depends on the WN sophistication of the traveler. An almost transcon, I'd bet on the former..
Of little practical significance unless you want an exit row, I've seen A1, A2 and A3 trip & sprint to the only 3 desirable exit row seats (the 4th is a middle) and I've seen them not care either. Depends on the WN sophistication of the traveler. An almost transcon, I'd bet on the former..
(Certainly not enough of these to take all of the window seats.)
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The difference may be minor, but sitting just forward of the wing at a window helps me stay calm and avoid the memories. For me, that works. I certainly don't want to turn this into a thread on fear of flying. But I'm very grateful for the assurances that you all are providing that I'm very likely to get that window seat that's so important to me.
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Also little known/understood that having AL or AL+ doesn't check you in automatically either which seems counter intuitive but worked in my favor (usually) once I figured it out. Thru's sitting in the exit row rarely did me in but late connections made my A01 moot frequently, especially during the greedy scheduling meltdown years.
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Statistically true in a crash, but crashing is not my worry. Turbulence-- and the triggering reminder of the incident are my concerns. The tail of the plane bobs noticeably more in severe turbulence, whereas seats directly over the wings and just forward of them are less affected. This is especially noticeable during "porpoising" turbulence.
The difference may be minor, but sitting just forward of the wing at a window helps me stay calm and avoid the memories. For me, that works. I certainly don't want to turn this into a thread on fear of flying. But I'm very grateful for the assurances that you all are providing that I'm very likely to get that window seat that's so important to me.
The difference may be minor, but sitting just forward of the wing at a window helps me stay calm and avoid the memories. For me, that works. I certainly don't want to turn this into a thread on fear of flying. But I'm very grateful for the assurances that you all are providing that I'm very likely to get that window seat that's so important to me.
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Also little known/understood that having AL or AL+ doesn't check you in automatically either which seems counter intuitive but worked in my favor (usually) once I figured it out. Thru's sitting in the exit row rarely did me in but late connections made my A01 moot frequently, especially during the greedy scheduling meltdown years.