Jan 23, 2014, 9:16 pm
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Do not post referral offers or requests in this thread. All such posts will be deleted.
This thread is dedicated to Q&A about the Chase RR Visa signup bonus offers.
Post important Chase RR Visa news in the RR Visa News ONLY thread. (It will quickly get lost in this thread.)
Post or look for referral offers ONLY in the RR Visa referrals thread in the referrals thread of the credit card forum.
75,000 miles bonus for all Southwest Airlines personal credit cards.
40K + 20K personal Plus
offer: $1,000 spend in three months for 40K. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K + 20K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
70K Performance Business Card offer. $5,000 spend in three months. $199 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K personal Plus offer $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Plus offer: $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Business Premier offer. $3,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 07-July-2017
50K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017
40K Personal Plus offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017
40K Personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K Business Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017
There have been targeted offers of 50K & $100 credit, for example:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24575935-post2302.html
Frequently Asked Questions about Rapid Rewards Visa
1. What are the different card types?
non-business Plus, non-business Premier, business Plus, and business Premier.
Premier cards have a higher annual fee but give 6000 anniversary bonus points vs. 3000 points for the Plus cards. It is generally agreed that you will get the bonus for a new account if you have not had that particular type of RR Visa card before, but Chase appears to be in the process of changing their policies (see below).
Note that prior to RR-2.0, the two types of RR Visa cards were "Classic" ($29 to $39 annual fee) and "Signature" ($59 to $69 annual fee). Plus and Premier are new products for purposes of the (soon to be retired?) "One bonus per product" rule.
2. Is there a zero annual fee version?
No.
3. Can I "churn" these cards? How often can I reapply for the same type card and get the signup bonus?
The official rule has recently changed more than once. Closely check the T&C of your offer as different rules may apply to concurrently available offers. The Inflight offer linked above states:
Referral offers have been seen with a limit of one individual and one business bonus per lifetime (although T&C read by the CSR taking the application differed from those printed on the referral offer).
Actual results sometimes differ from the official rule. People have reported receiving the bonus a second time on the same card type at various intervals even when the bonus was officially once per lifefime per product. Please post your results here.
As of mid-May 2015 Chase has cracked down on applicants who appear to have much less than average attachment to their cards. Specifically, more than 5 applications within the past 24 months is the approximate cutoff: Chase crackdown on churners: Please report your RR Visa approvals/denials here
4. Can I cancel the card and still collect the anniversary bonus?
Yes. Reasonable people disagree on whether this crosses the line of exploiting the card issuer. The anniversary bonus is described a reward for having been a cardmember for the past year, not as a reward for paying the next year's annual fee. Based on that description, the bonus has been earned even if you then cancel the card. As a practical matter, there is a window of only a couple weeks to accomplish this. The bonus points will post on the billing date of the statement containing your new annual fee, which will have posted earlier in the billing cycle. You have 30 days from posting of the annual fee to cancel the card and have the new fee refunded.
5. Does the annual fee count toward the spending threshold for the signup bonus?
No.
6. When will my signup bonus post to my Rapid Rewards account?
If you have met the spending threshold at least several days before your statement date, the bonus will normally post 2 days after your statement date, not when you actually spent the money! Cutting the timing or the spending amount too closely is not advisable. Mistakes can happen.
7. My statement shows sufficient purchases to meet the spending threshold. Why didn't I receive the bonus?
This can happen if you met the spending threshold just a few days before the statement date. It appears that accounts are flagged for meeting the spending threshold independently of the statement generation process and less frequently than daily.
8. How can I determine my statement date?
You should call Chase (phone number on back of card) to check your next statement date. Credit card companies are now required to have payments due on the same numerical day of each month, which means closing dates vary throughout the year. (Before reforms enacted after the financial crisis, RR Visa cards had constant closing dates rather than constant due dates.) The closing date should remain within the same small range unless you request a change of your payment due date. When you request a change, Chase normally can delay your next statement but cannot accelerate it. If you are unwisely taking the risk of cutting your timing too close, you should call Chase more than once to confirm your next statement date.
9. I accidentally crossed the spending threshold in December rather than January. Can I return a large purchase to bring my spending back below the threshold?
Unlikely. It appears that the sweep to check spending threshold does not un-flag an account previously flagged as meeting the threshold. It's not even clear whether the sweep counts returns at all. If you realize the error before the statement closes and you have a payment due date change available, you might be able to push the December closing date into January.
10. Can I apply for a credit card in my wife's name but my Rapid Rewards number, so that the points funnel into my account?
People have tried this. Some have succeeded. Others have reported that Chase closed the account and posted no Rapid Rewards points. Do you feel lucky? Programs can become very aggressive when they suspect members of defrauding the program by using non-matching names. When you game the system you are only on solid ground if you follow the rules to the letter. Breaking the rules means that the program can penalize you if they want to, and believe me: They want to.
11. Can I scam this system in any other way? I just had a clever idea.
There is nothing new under the sun here on FlyerTalk. If it relates to established program rules and it isn't discussed here you can be confident your idea will not work.
This thread is dedicated to Q&A about the Chase RR Visa signup bonus offers.
Post important Chase RR Visa news in the RR Visa News ONLY thread. (It will quickly get lost in this thread.)
Post or look for referral offers ONLY in the RR Visa referrals thread in the referrals thread of the credit card forum.
75,000 miles bonus for all Southwest Airlines personal credit cards.
- 40,000 points when you spend $1,000 within 3 months.
- 35,000 points when you spend $5,000 within 6 months.
- Southwest Airlines Rapid RewardsŪ Plus Card. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
- Southwest Rapid RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
offer: $1,000 spend in three months for 40K. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K + 20K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
70K Performance Business Card offer. $5,000 spend in three months. $199 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Plus offer: $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Business Premier offer. $3,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
There have been targeted offers of 50K & $100 credit, for example:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24575935-post2302.html
Frequently Asked Questions about Rapid Rewards Visa
1. What are the different card types?
non-business Plus, non-business Premier, business Plus, and business Premier.
Premier cards have a higher annual fee but give 6000 anniversary bonus points vs. 3000 points for the Plus cards. It is generally agreed that you will get the bonus for a new account if you have not had that particular type of RR Visa card before, but Chase appears to be in the process of changing their policies (see below).
Note that prior to RR-2.0, the two types of RR Visa cards were "Classic" ($29 to $39 annual fee) and "Signature" ($59 to $69 annual fee). Plus and Premier are new products for purposes of the (soon to be retired?) "One bonus per product" rule.
2. Is there a zero annual fee version?
No.
3. Can I "churn" these cards? How often can I reapply for the same type card and get the signup bonus?
The official rule has recently changed more than once. Closely check the T&C of your offer as different rules may apply to concurrently available offers. The Inflight offer linked above states:
This bonus offer is available to you as long as you have not received a new cardmember bonus for this product in the past twenty four months.
Actual results sometimes differ from the official rule. People have reported receiving the bonus a second time on the same card type at various intervals even when the bonus was officially once per lifefime per product. Please post your results here.
As of mid-May 2015 Chase has cracked down on applicants who appear to have much less than average attachment to their cards. Specifically, more than 5 applications within the past 24 months is the approximate cutoff: Chase crackdown on churners: Please report your RR Visa approvals/denials here
4. Can I cancel the card and still collect the anniversary bonus?
Yes. Reasonable people disagree on whether this crosses the line of exploiting the card issuer. The anniversary bonus is described a reward for having been a cardmember for the past year, not as a reward for paying the next year's annual fee. Based on that description, the bonus has been earned even if you then cancel the card. As a practical matter, there is a window of only a couple weeks to accomplish this. The bonus points will post on the billing date of the statement containing your new annual fee, which will have posted earlier in the billing cycle. You have 30 days from posting of the annual fee to cancel the card and have the new fee refunded.
5. Does the annual fee count toward the spending threshold for the signup bonus?
No.
6. When will my signup bonus post to my Rapid Rewards account?
If you have met the spending threshold at least several days before your statement date, the bonus will normally post 2 days after your statement date, not when you actually spent the money! Cutting the timing or the spending amount too closely is not advisable. Mistakes can happen.
7. My statement shows sufficient purchases to meet the spending threshold. Why didn't I receive the bonus?
This can happen if you met the spending threshold just a few days before the statement date. It appears that accounts are flagged for meeting the spending threshold independently of the statement generation process and less frequently than daily.
8. How can I determine my statement date?
You should call Chase (phone number on back of card) to check your next statement date. Credit card companies are now required to have payments due on the same numerical day of each month, which means closing dates vary throughout the year. (Before reforms enacted after the financial crisis, RR Visa cards had constant closing dates rather than constant due dates.) The closing date should remain within the same small range unless you request a change of your payment due date. When you request a change, Chase normally can delay your next statement but cannot accelerate it. If you are unwisely taking the risk of cutting your timing too close, you should call Chase more than once to confirm your next statement date.
9. I accidentally crossed the spending threshold in December rather than January. Can I return a large purchase to bring my spending back below the threshold?
Unlikely. It appears that the sweep to check spending threshold does not un-flag an account previously flagged as meeting the threshold. It's not even clear whether the sweep counts returns at all. If you realize the error before the statement closes and you have a payment due date change available, you might be able to push the December closing date into January.
10. Can I apply for a credit card in my wife's name but my Rapid Rewards number, so that the points funnel into my account?
People have tried this. Some have succeeded. Others have reported that Chase closed the account and posted no Rapid Rewards points. Do you feel lucky? Programs can become very aggressive when they suspect members of defrauding the program by using non-matching names. When you game the system you are only on solid ground if you follow the rules to the letter. Breaking the rules means that the program can penalize you if they want to, and believe me: They want to.
11. Can I scam this system in any other way? I just had a clever idea.
There is nothing new under the sun here on FlyerTalk. If it relates to established program rules and it isn't discussed here you can be confident your idea will not work.
Discussion of Chase RR Visa 40K-75K sigunup points offers -- NO REFERRALS!
Nov 30, 2016, 10:48 pm
#3331
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: St. Louis, MO
Programs: Southwest Companion Pass
Posts: 790
Trips will not be until May, just will be booking them in January. Can the companion pass be used anytime prior to flight (assuming seats are still available) or does it have to be added within some specific time from date of booking?
Either way, it seems now is the best time to apply for the cards and get positioned for 2 years worth of companion pass....thanks for the responses!
Either way, it seems now is the best time to apply for the cards and get positioned for 2 years worth of companion pass....thanks for the responses!
Nov 30, 2016, 10:58 pm
#3332
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: St. Louis, MO
Programs: Southwest Companion Pass
Posts: 790
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...ost-first.html
Nov 30, 2016, 11:47 pm
#3333
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 180
Dec 1, 2016, 12:06 pm
#3334
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 22
Is there another personal card that has 50k offers? I'd like to get 2 cards and I've heard the business card is tough to get.
Thanks.
Dec 1, 2016, 12:07 pm
#3335
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: St. Louis, MO
Programs: Southwest Companion Pass
Posts: 790
Here is the thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...ost-first.html
Last edited by Critterlynn; Dec 1, 2016 at 12:14 pm
Dec 2, 2016, 1:53 pm
#3337
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
Before applying, make sure your total credit lines aren't too high or it will hurt your chances of auto-approval.
Dec 2, 2016, 4:50 pm
#3338
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 10
If you just got the card right now then it likely won't show up on your report yet as a new account. If you go to recon hopefully they won't add it to the list manually.
Before applying, make sure your total credit lines aren't too high or it will hurt your chances of auto-approval.
Before applying, make sure your total credit lines aren't too high or it will hurt your chances of auto-approval.
Dec 3, 2016, 1:36 pm
#3339
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
At several airports this week Sw had the credit card booths with big signs saying 40K points, I believe in the past airports usually had the 50K offers so I wonder if 40K isn't going to replace the public 50K offers making it a bit harder to get CP via CC's.
If anyone wants CP for 2017/18 I would grab those 50K referral offers while you can and I am not one of the people offering referrals.
If anyone wants CP for 2017/18 I would grab those 50K referral offers while you can and I am not one of the people offering referrals.
Dec 3, 2016, 3:31 pm
#3340
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Intermountain West
Programs: Too many to list
Posts: 12,082
At several airports this week Sw had the credit card booths with big signs saying 40K points, I believe in the past airports usually had the 50K offers so I wonder if 40K isn't going to replace the public 50K offers making it a bit harder to get CP via CC's.
If anyone wants CP for 2017/18 I would grab those 50K referral offers while you can and I am not one of the people offering referrals.
If anyone wants CP for 2017/18 I would grab those 50K referral offers while you can and I am not one of the people offering referrals.
Dec 3, 2016, 6:02 pm
#3341
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
I don't remember airports ever having booths with big 40K point signs ( or anything less than 50K points) like I did last week in MSP, ATL and RSW.
40K per card Seems like a way to prevent CP via almost pure credit card signups while still offering a decent bonus and letting people who are willing to spend on cards, paid flights , transfer points, etc for an additional 26K CPQP a path to CP.
I have CP until 2018 and about 700K Marriott points so I'm not too concerned for myself at this point. We get a lot of value out of CP and my wife will be 1/24 next November so I'm already starting my plans for our next CP and should 40K be the only game in town I need to figure out my best options for getting the 26K CPQP she will be short. Do I suck it up and buy $26K in gift cards (Costco and my local grocer so no fees) transfer Hyatt ? Marriott ? a combo of all 3 or get a 50K vacation package.
Last edited by flyer4512; Dec 3, 2016 at 6:15 pm
Dec 3, 2016, 9:34 pm
#3342
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: St. Louis, MO
Programs: Southwest Companion Pass
Posts: 790
I have seen sign up bonuses as low as 25K in the past but airports were still offering 50K. I actually used a 50K offer in Atlanta years ago at the time when 25K was the best Plus public offer.
I don't remember airports ever having booths with big 40K point signs ( or anything less than 50K points) like I did last week in MSP, ATL and RSW.
40K per card Seems like a way to prevent CP via almost pure credit card signups while still offering a decent bonus and letting people who are willing to spend on cards, paid flights , transfer points, etc for an additional 26K CPQP a path to CP.
I have CP until 2018 and about 700K Marriott points so I'm not too concerned for myself at this point. We get a lot of value out of CP and my wife will be 1/24 next November so I'm already starting my plans for our next CP and should 40K be the only game in town I need to figure out my best options for getting the 26K CPQP she will be short. Do I suck it up and buy $26K in gift cards (Costco and my local grocer so no fees) transfer Hyatt ? Marriott ? a combo of all 3 or get a 50K vacation package.
I don't remember airports ever having booths with big 40K point signs ( or anything less than 50K points) like I did last week in MSP, ATL and RSW.
40K per card Seems like a way to prevent CP via almost pure credit card signups while still offering a decent bonus and letting people who are willing to spend on cards, paid flights , transfer points, etc for an additional 26K CPQP a path to CP.
I have CP until 2018 and about 700K Marriott points so I'm not too concerned for myself at this point. We get a lot of value out of CP and my wife will be 1/24 next November so I'm already starting my plans for our next CP and should 40K be the only game in town I need to figure out my best options for getting the 26K CPQP she will be short. Do I suck it up and buy $26K in gift cards (Costco and my local grocer so no fees) transfer Hyatt ? Marriott ? a combo of all 3 or get a 50K vacation package.
Dec 6, 2016, 1:25 pm
#3344
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
Dec 6, 2016, 1:54 pm
#3345
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 57
You can have one of each (so two individual consumer cards -- one Plus and one Premier) --- but not two of the same card.