Jan 23, 2014, 9:16 pm
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Do not post referral offers or requests in this thread. All such posts will be deleted.
This thread is dedicated to Q&A about the Chase RR Visa signup bonus offers.
Post important Chase RR Visa news in the RR Visa News ONLY thread. (It will quickly get lost in this thread.)
Post or look for referral offers ONLY in the RR Visa referrals thread in the referrals thread of the credit card forum.
75,000 miles bonus for all Southwest Airlines personal credit cards.
40K + 20K personal Plus
offer: $1,000 spend in three months for 40K. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K + 20K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
70K Performance Business Card offer. $5,000 spend in three months. $199 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K personal Plus offer $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Plus offer: $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Business Premier offer. $3,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 07-July-2017
50K Plus offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017
40K Personal Plus offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K personal Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017
40K Personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
50K Business Premier offer. $2,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year. Still active 21-Apr-2017
There have been targeted offers of 50K & $100 credit, for example:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24575935-post2302.html
Frequently Asked Questions about Rapid Rewards Visa
1. What are the different card types?
non-business Plus, non-business Premier, business Plus, and business Premier.
Premier cards have a higher annual fee but give 6000 anniversary bonus points vs. 3000 points for the Plus cards. It is generally agreed that you will get the bonus for a new account if you have not had that particular type of RR Visa card before, but Chase appears to be in the process of changing their policies (see below).
Note that prior to RR-2.0, the two types of RR Visa cards were "Classic" ($29 to $39 annual fee) and "Signature" ($59 to $69 annual fee). Plus and Premier are new products for purposes of the (soon to be retired?) "One bonus per product" rule.
2. Is there a zero annual fee version?
No.
3. Can I "churn" these cards? How often can I reapply for the same type card and get the signup bonus?
The official rule has recently changed more than once. Closely check the T&C of your offer as different rules may apply to concurrently available offers. The Inflight offer linked above states:
Referral offers have been seen with a limit of one individual and one business bonus per lifetime (although T&C read by the CSR taking the application differed from those printed on the referral offer).
Actual results sometimes differ from the official rule. People have reported receiving the bonus a second time on the same card type at various intervals even when the bonus was officially once per lifefime per product. Please post your results here.
As of mid-May 2015 Chase has cracked down on applicants who appear to have much less than average attachment to their cards. Specifically, more than 5 applications within the past 24 months is the approximate cutoff: Chase crackdown on churners: Please report your RR Visa approvals/denials here
4. Can I cancel the card and still collect the anniversary bonus?
Yes. Reasonable people disagree on whether this crosses the line of exploiting the card issuer. The anniversary bonus is described a reward for having been a cardmember for the past year, not as a reward for paying the next year's annual fee. Based on that description, the bonus has been earned even if you then cancel the card. As a practical matter, there is a window of only a couple weeks to accomplish this. The bonus points will post on the billing date of the statement containing your new annual fee, which will have posted earlier in the billing cycle. You have 30 days from posting of the annual fee to cancel the card and have the new fee refunded.
5. Does the annual fee count toward the spending threshold for the signup bonus?
No.
6. When will my signup bonus post to my Rapid Rewards account?
If you have met the spending threshold at least several days before your statement date, the bonus will normally post 2 days after your statement date, not when you actually spent the money! Cutting the timing or the spending amount too closely is not advisable. Mistakes can happen.
7. My statement shows sufficient purchases to meet the spending threshold. Why didn't I receive the bonus?
This can happen if you met the spending threshold just a few days before the statement date. It appears that accounts are flagged for meeting the spending threshold independently of the statement generation process and less frequently than daily.
8. How can I determine my statement date?
You should call Chase (phone number on back of card) to check your next statement date. Credit card companies are now required to have payments due on the same numerical day of each month, which means closing dates vary throughout the year. (Before reforms enacted after the financial crisis, RR Visa cards had constant closing dates rather than constant due dates.) The closing date should remain within the same small range unless you request a change of your payment due date. When you request a change, Chase normally can delay your next statement but cannot accelerate it. If you are unwisely taking the risk of cutting your timing too close, you should call Chase more than once to confirm your next statement date.
9. I accidentally crossed the spending threshold in December rather than January. Can I return a large purchase to bring my spending back below the threshold?
Unlikely. It appears that the sweep to check spending threshold does not un-flag an account previously flagged as meeting the threshold. It's not even clear whether the sweep counts returns at all. If you realize the error before the statement closes and you have a payment due date change available, you might be able to push the December closing date into January.
10. Can I apply for a credit card in my wife's name but my Rapid Rewards number, so that the points funnel into my account?
People have tried this. Some have succeeded. Others have reported that Chase closed the account and posted no Rapid Rewards points. Do you feel lucky? Programs can become very aggressive when they suspect members of defrauding the program by using non-matching names. When you game the system you are only on solid ground if you follow the rules to the letter. Breaking the rules means that the program can penalize you if they want to, and believe me: They want to.
11. Can I scam this system in any other way? I just had a clever idea.
There is nothing new under the sun here on FlyerTalk. If it relates to established program rules and it isn't discussed here you can be confident your idea will not work.
This thread is dedicated to Q&A about the Chase RR Visa signup bonus offers.
Post important Chase RR Visa news in the RR Visa News ONLY thread. (It will quickly get lost in this thread.)
Post or look for referral offers ONLY in the RR Visa referrals thread in the referrals thread of the credit card forum.
75,000 miles bonus for all Southwest Airlines personal credit cards.
- 40,000 points when you spend $1,000 within 3 months.
- 35,000 points when you spend $5,000 within 6 months.
- Southwest Airlines Rapid RewardsŪ Plus Card. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
- Southwest Rapid RewardsŪ Premier Credit Card. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
offer: $1,000 spend in three months for 40K. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K + 20K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $11,000 more in 12 months for additional 20K. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
70K Performance Business Card offer. $5,000 spend in three months. $199 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Plus offer: $1,000 spend in three months. $69 annual fee, not waived the first year.
40K personal Premier offer. $1,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
60K Business Premier offer. $3,000 spend in three months. $99 annual fee, not waived the first year.
There have been targeted offers of 50K & $100 credit, for example:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24575935-post2302.html
Frequently Asked Questions about Rapid Rewards Visa
1. What are the different card types?
non-business Plus, non-business Premier, business Plus, and business Premier.
Premier cards have a higher annual fee but give 6000 anniversary bonus points vs. 3000 points for the Plus cards. It is generally agreed that you will get the bonus for a new account if you have not had that particular type of RR Visa card before, but Chase appears to be in the process of changing their policies (see below).
Note that prior to RR-2.0, the two types of RR Visa cards were "Classic" ($29 to $39 annual fee) and "Signature" ($59 to $69 annual fee). Plus and Premier are new products for purposes of the (soon to be retired?) "One bonus per product" rule.
2. Is there a zero annual fee version?
No.
3. Can I "churn" these cards? How often can I reapply for the same type card and get the signup bonus?
The official rule has recently changed more than once. Closely check the T&C of your offer as different rules may apply to concurrently available offers. The Inflight offer linked above states:
This bonus offer is available to you as long as you have not received a new cardmember bonus for this product in the past twenty four months.
Actual results sometimes differ from the official rule. People have reported receiving the bonus a second time on the same card type at various intervals even when the bonus was officially once per lifefime per product. Please post your results here.
As of mid-May 2015 Chase has cracked down on applicants who appear to have much less than average attachment to their cards. Specifically, more than 5 applications within the past 24 months is the approximate cutoff: Chase crackdown on churners: Please report your RR Visa approvals/denials here
4. Can I cancel the card and still collect the anniversary bonus?
Yes. Reasonable people disagree on whether this crosses the line of exploiting the card issuer. The anniversary bonus is described a reward for having been a cardmember for the past year, not as a reward for paying the next year's annual fee. Based on that description, the bonus has been earned even if you then cancel the card. As a practical matter, there is a window of only a couple weeks to accomplish this. The bonus points will post on the billing date of the statement containing your new annual fee, which will have posted earlier in the billing cycle. You have 30 days from posting of the annual fee to cancel the card and have the new fee refunded.
5. Does the annual fee count toward the spending threshold for the signup bonus?
No.
6. When will my signup bonus post to my Rapid Rewards account?
If you have met the spending threshold at least several days before your statement date, the bonus will normally post 2 days after your statement date, not when you actually spent the money! Cutting the timing or the spending amount too closely is not advisable. Mistakes can happen.
7. My statement shows sufficient purchases to meet the spending threshold. Why didn't I receive the bonus?
This can happen if you met the spending threshold just a few days before the statement date. It appears that accounts are flagged for meeting the spending threshold independently of the statement generation process and less frequently than daily.
8. How can I determine my statement date?
You should call Chase (phone number on back of card) to check your next statement date. Credit card companies are now required to have payments due on the same numerical day of each month, which means closing dates vary throughout the year. (Before reforms enacted after the financial crisis, RR Visa cards had constant closing dates rather than constant due dates.) The closing date should remain within the same small range unless you request a change of your payment due date. When you request a change, Chase normally can delay your next statement but cannot accelerate it. If you are unwisely taking the risk of cutting your timing too close, you should call Chase more than once to confirm your next statement date.
9. I accidentally crossed the spending threshold in December rather than January. Can I return a large purchase to bring my spending back below the threshold?
Unlikely. It appears that the sweep to check spending threshold does not un-flag an account previously flagged as meeting the threshold. It's not even clear whether the sweep counts returns at all. If you realize the error before the statement closes and you have a payment due date change available, you might be able to push the December closing date into January.
10. Can I apply for a credit card in my wife's name but my Rapid Rewards number, so that the points funnel into my account?
People have tried this. Some have succeeded. Others have reported that Chase closed the account and posted no Rapid Rewards points. Do you feel lucky? Programs can become very aggressive when they suspect members of defrauding the program by using non-matching names. When you game the system you are only on solid ground if you follow the rules to the letter. Breaking the rules means that the program can penalize you if they want to, and believe me: They want to.
11. Can I scam this system in any other way? I just had a clever idea.
There is nothing new under the sun here on FlyerTalk. If it relates to established program rules and it isn't discussed here you can be confident your idea will not work.
Discussion of Chase RR Visa 40K-75K sigunup points offers -- NO REFERRALS!
Feb 21, 2016, 1:12 pm
#3046
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,473
Thanks JF and Wilbur. Concern about phone app is 5/24 rule being applied prematurely. If denied, zero chance of CP.
Some report premature use of 5/24 rule by phone agents for co-branded cards. Don't know if those reports are accurate or if people are just being denied due to the typical Too Many Inquiries reason.
Some report premature use of 5/24 rule by phone agents for co-branded cards. Don't know if those reports are accurate or if people are just being denied due to the typical Too Many Inquiries reason.
For a brief period of a few weeks last year there was 50k via link but you had to get to it via the +More and it was removed fairly quickly. It's been pretty clear that Chase plans to mostly keep the 50k via referral. I wouldn't be shocked to see 50k public link available after Chase moves to 5/24 for co-branded cards but you're pretty early in the year so not sure why you wouldn't just get it now. I'd rather have three more months of CP than wait for a link and hope it comes around. The phone call is very painless, it's just some foreign call center employee putting your info into an application for you. Takes 10-15mins.
Feb 21, 2016, 6:23 pm
#3047
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 62
How long after the annual fee posts online does it take for the bonus points to show up in your RR account? My annual fees showed up on 2/1 and the points still haven't posted to my RR. My statements cut on 2/26 and 2/27 for my 2 cards. How long should I wait before cancelling the cards?
Feb 21, 2016, 7:02 pm
#3048
Join Date: Feb 2004
Programs: IHG Spire Elite; Hyatt Platinum; SPG Preferred+; Club Carlson Gold; SW CP
Posts: 674
How long after the annual fee posts online does it take for the bonus points to show up in your RR account? My annual fees showed up on 2/1 and the points still haven't posted to my RR. My statements cut on 2/26 and 2/27 for my 2 cards. How long should I wait before cancelling the cards?
Feb 22, 2016, 7:38 am
#3049
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 288
Moretimeofguy,
I think the phone reps quoting the 5/24 rule do that on re-con calls. IIRC those are a totally different set of phone reps. The reps taking card applications are basically filling out all the info that you would typically be putting online, and then hitting a button. They have no actual input on the decision.
I think the phone reps quoting the 5/24 rule do that on re-con calls. IIRC those are a totally different set of phone reps. The reps taking card applications are basically filling out all the info that you would typically be putting online, and then hitting a button. They have no actual input on the decision.
Feb 22, 2016, 7:39 am
#3050
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Columbus OH
Posts: 30
I see the current 50k offers have them charging you the annual $99 fee right away. When I had the card two years ago that fee was waived the first year. I was wondering if there might be an offer out there that waives the fee the first year that I might be missing. Anyone seen one?
Feb 22, 2016, 10:21 am
#3051
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
Thanks JF and Wilbur. Concern about phone app is 5/24 rule being applied prematurely. If denied, zero chance of CP.
Some report premature use of 5/24 rule by phone agents for co-branded cards. Don't know if those reports are accurate or if people are just being denied due to the typical Too Many Inquiries reason.
Some report premature use of 5/24 rule by phone agents for co-branded cards. Don't know if those reports are accurate or if people are just being denied due to the typical Too Many Inquiries reason.
Feb 22, 2016, 11:27 am
#3052
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 480
I see the current 50k offers have them charging you the annual $99 fee right away. When I had the card two years ago that fee was waived the first year. I was wondering if there might be an offer out there that waives the fee the first year that I might be missing. Anyone seen one?
Feb 22, 2016, 9:49 pm
#3053
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6,606
I see the current 50k offers have them charging you the annual $99 fee right away. When I had the card two years ago that fee was waived the first year. I was wondering if there might be an offer out there that waives the fee the first year that I might be missing. Anyone seen one?
There have been $69 and $99 annual fees since I received my first SW cards in late 2013.
I have never seen a NAF offer.
Last edited by flyer4512; Feb 23, 2016 at 9:28 pm
Feb 22, 2016, 9:55 pm
#3054
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 9
I see the current 50k offers have them charging you the annual $99 fee right away. When I had the card two years ago that fee was waived the first year. I was wondering if there might be an offer out there that waives the fee the first year that I might be missing. Anyone seen one?
Feb 23, 2016, 3:47 am
#3055
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicagoland, IL, USA
Programs: WN CP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,192
Feb 23, 2016, 6:31 am
#3056
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Columbus OH
Posts: 30
I guess I worded that wrong. In that past I had the card for a year before I got charged 99 bucks. Now they want to charge 99 bucks on the first statement. I want to wait a year and when the fee rolls around cancel the card. But I haven't found that deal out there anymore.
Feb 23, 2016, 9:08 am
#3057
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 9
I guess I worded that wrong. In that past I had the card for a year before I got charged 99 bucks. Now they want to charge 99 bucks on the first statement. I want to wait a year and when the fee rolls around cancel the card. But I haven't found that deal out there anymore.
Feb 23, 2016, 10:48 am
#3059
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Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 9