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#753
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Question, because I don't know: can an FA really log that many hours in a year? You're talking 2,734 hours there, assuming both the hourly and annual pay here is gross and the top hourly and top annual pay is the same person. (If it's not, then he/she worked even more than 2,734 hours!)
Assuming a reasonable amount of holiday/vacation time, you're talking constant 60 hour weeks. Working nonstop - no leave at all for a year - you're talking low/mid 50's.
I guess I always assumed there were FAA regulations that capped it lower than that. I thought a more typical schedule was 3-4 long days and then off for a few days...
To be clear, I realize that an FA schedule may entail 60+ hours of time dedicated to the job...but in terms of being officially "clocked in" I thought it was a lot less...
Assuming a reasonable amount of holiday/vacation time, you're talking constant 60 hour weeks. Working nonstop - no leave at all for a year - you're talking low/mid 50's.
I guess I always assumed there were FAA regulations that capped it lower than that. I thought a more typical schedule was 3-4 long days and then off for a few days...
To be clear, I realize that an FA schedule may entail 60+ hours of time dedicated to the job...but in terms of being officially "clocked in" I thought it was a lot less...
I have a friend that is an FA for DL and he makes a good salary but he does international and speaks 2 or 3 languages fluently
#756
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I also thought an FA on WN was paid on segment length as well. I know on Delta the crew used to get paid as soon as the door was closed. On WN if the door is closed and they get an ATC hold or there is bad weather and they hold the plane for a while, I didn't think an FA on WN got paid.
I have a friend that is an FA for DL and he makes a good salary but he does international and speaks 2 or 3 languages fluently
I have a friend that is an FA for DL and he makes a good salary but he does international and speaks 2 or 3 languages fluently
I am curious now.
#757
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- Southwest has a higher median salary than the typical legacy
- A lead FA flying int'l, speaking 2-3 languages, for a major carrier probably gets paid more than a senior Southwest FA
I don't question the hourly rates posted above too much. I just question whether an FA making $55-60/hr. can actually fly enough in a year to hit $150k at any airline. That's a ton of flying and I thought FAA rules had caps on how much an FA could work, similar to what they have for pilots.
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My guess, and I have no data to back this up:
- Southwest has a higher median salary than the typical legacy
- A lead FA flying int'l, speaking 2-3 languages, for a major carrier probably gets paid more than a senior Southwest FA
I don't question the hourly rates posted above too much. I just question whether an FA making $55-60/hr. can actually fly enough in a year to hit $150k at any airline. That's a ton of flying and I thought FAA rules had caps on how much an FA could work, similar to what they have for pilots.
- Southwest has a higher median salary than the typical legacy
- A lead FA flying int'l, speaking 2-3 languages, for a major carrier probably gets paid more than a senior Southwest FA
I don't question the hourly rates posted above too much. I just question whether an FA making $55-60/hr. can actually fly enough in a year to hit $150k at any airline. That's a ton of flying and I thought FAA rules had caps on how much an FA could work, similar to what they have for pilots.
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#760
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A perfect example is a WN FA is paid in most cases, twice as much as an AT FA.
There are many FA's making at or over $100,000 per year. We have many ways to achieve this one being trips that pay time and a half. These trips are trips picked up during a certain period the last day of the month and first three days of the month.
There is also extra pay for time over a duty day limit, reroutes, stranded pay, pay from other FA's for picking up their trip, cost of living raises (aside from the anniversary raise) and other factors that won't make sense to someone in a corporate job, because it's just so different than a corporate job.
We have FA's from all walks of life to include Dr's., lawyers, MBA's, even a Rabbi!
Although there is no pension, there is profit sharing and 100% company match on the 401k.
That's just a snapshot for the curious.
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I personally wear the dress slacks and blazer combo.
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ES, I know that WN's flight attendants are outstanding, but the picture you paint sounds similar to one a UAW member would have drawn in 1970, right before foreign brands decimated the US auto industry. Holding wages above market rates eventually results in massive job losses. I hope you folks are not _too_ overpaid.
And I hope your 401k is invested in something other than Southwest stock. If the company ever did go bankrupt, your 401k would evaporate!
And I hope your 401k is invested in something other than Southwest stock. If the company ever did go bankrupt, your 401k would evaporate!
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Maybe Proctor & Gamble or Johnson & Johnson, companies that people will always be patronizing no matter what.
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Boy, that's the truth. WN employee retirement money should be invested in whatever is the opposite of WN stock. Don't forget what happened to so many Enron/Worldcom/Lehman employees.
Maybe Proctor & Gamble or Johnson & Johnson, companies that people will always be patronizing no matter what.
Maybe Proctor & Gamble or Johnson & Johnson, companies that people will always be patronizing no matter what.
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