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Old Apr 28, 2011, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
My "joke" was not a joke, it was a comment designed along the lines of "can't you just keep quiet so people can try to get some sleep?", You're right, I suppose I could have just said that.

And, he certainly DID shut up after my remark, so I view it as entirely successful and entirely appropriate.

What IS inappropriate is a nonstop babbling FA, with no regard to the passenger's sanity and comfort, inflicting himself on them.

Why couldn't he maybe tell one joke, maybe two ... see that no one was into what he was saying, into his shtick, and then give it a rest?

And as for the tired refrain of "Well, go fly another carrier", sometime you don't have a choice. But to your point - WN is not the cheapest. I carry on so free bags don't mean anything. Free standby on other carriers vs paying up to catch an earlier flight on WN also goes against WN. FF redemption in C around the world vs middle seat Y in the US. So yes, I don't fly WN unless there's no other viable option.

If they truly want to lure BS passengers from other carriers, then they need to provide the services and environment that those customers (who are, for the most part, pretty savvy) desire, while maintaining the appearance of the old WN for those that like the party bus atmosphere. Just like they are not the old low fare carrier anymore, but they try to maintain the appearance that they are.
"Joke", "comment"

Call it what you want. It's still tasteless on YOUR part.

Joking or commenting on an accident that could have result in multiple fatalities is tasteless.

Why not tell that same "joke" or "comment" to the passengers or loved ones on that "sunroof" flight according to you?

Bravo to you for shutting the flight attendant up with your distasteful joke, comment.

And if you ever have a car accident, make sure you post it here so i can post a tasteless "comment" to you.
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 2:09 pm
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Thank you.

That was exactly the tone I wanted to set, because i wanted to jar the FA into being quiet. So, joke, comment, remark, whatever, I got the point across. If he really wants to be a comedian, be ready for a heckler from the audience.

As for being tasteless, I remember a party in college in late 1979 called "Death Night". The beverages included "DC-10 Daiquiris" and "Bloody Garys" (for Gary Gilmore).

Now THAT was tasteless. Tasty, but tasteless

It is pretty clear that others are interested in the thread, based on the # of views.

People either think "great" or "awful and tasteless". So what would you have done .... stuck in your seatbelt, FA a good distance away, early morning flight and you know it will go on .. and on .. and on ... remember too, no headphones allowed.

I won't stand for it. Not from me, not from another passenger, not even from an FA.

Johnny Carson had his famous "rule of 3" -- If only the WN FA's would follow it, everyone would be a lot happier, not just me.
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 2:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
Thank you.

That was exactly the tone I wanted to set, because i wanted to jar the FA into being quiet. So, joke, comment, remark, whatever, I got the point across. If he really wants to be a comedian, be ready for a heckler from the audience.

As for being tasteless, I remember a party in college in late 1979 called "Death Night". The beverages included "DC-10 Daiquiris" and "Bloody Garys" (for Gary Gilmore).

Now THAT was tasteless. Tasty, but tasteless

It is pretty clear that others are interested in the thread, based on the # of views.

People either think "great" or "awful and tasteless". So what would you have done .... stuck in your seatbelt, FA a good distance away, early morning flight and you know it will go on .. and on .. and on ... remember too, no headphones allowed.

I won't stand for it. Not from me, not from another passenger, not even from an FA.

Johnny Carson had his famous "rule of 3" -- If only the WN FA's would follow it, everyone would be a lot happier, not just me.
Ok. If you put that way.

I was at the casino table 2 days ago and a player was being loud and probably just as obnoxious as the FA you mentioned. I think the guy was drunk. Did i tell him he was drunk and needs to shut up? No, i discreetly asked the floor supervisor had him remove from the table. And he was removed.

THAT is how you handle the situation.

Your turn now. But i am actually done here with YOUR "lame" joke, comment, remarks...whatever!

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Old Apr 28, 2011, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
Thank you.

That was exactly the tone I wanted to set, because i wanted to jar the FA into being quiet. So, joke, comment, remark, whatever, I got the point across. If he really wants to be a comedian, be ready for a heckler from the audience.

As for being tasteless, I remember a party in college in late 1979 called "Death Night". The beverages included "DC-10 Daiquiris" and "Bloody Garys" (for Gary Gilmore).

Now THAT was tasteless. Tasty, but tasteless

It is pretty clear that others are interested in the thread, based on the # of views.

People either think "great" or "awful and tasteless". So what would you have done .... stuck in your seatbelt, FA a good distance away, early morning flight and you know it will go on .. and on .. and on ... remember too, no headphones allowed.

I won't stand for it. Not from me, not from another passenger, not even from an FA.

Johnny Carson had his famous "rule of 3" -- If only the WN FA's would follow it, everyone would be a lot happier, not just me.
and for those who already fear flying? tough?

were you the kid who stood and giggled when the bully would beat up the handicapped kid in 3rd grade too?
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
And as for the tired refrain of "Well, go fly another carrier", sometime you don't have a choice. But to your point - WN is not the cheapest. I carry on so free bags don't mean anything. Free standby on other carriers vs paying up to catch an earlier flight on WN also goes against WN. FF redemption in C around the world vs middle seat Y in the US. So yes, I don't fly WN unless there's no other viable option.
Yep, sometimes we have to suck it up and fly with a boring, humorless, full of red tape airline like UA or DL. They are the only ones that go non-stop from A to B.

Sometimes you have to suck it up and fly with Southwest, because DL doesn't go between your A and your B.

Its best to avoid what you don't like.

Things are rough all over.

However, think about the person that was nervous about flying that day, and heard your joke about sunroofs. I'll bet they really appreciated it.
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by cozyjoe
..and this relates to Miles&Points....how?
Welcome to Flyertalk, cozyjoe. Hope you stick around and contribute to this or any other forum. You will find these forums far ranging, often oft-topic, but definitely of interest if you travel.
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
Thank you.

That was exactly the tone I wanted to set, because i wanted to jar the FA into being quiet. So, joke, comment, remark, whatever, I got the point across. If he really wants to be a comedian, be ready for a heckler from the audience.

As for being tasteless, I remember a party in college in late 1979 called "Death Night". The beverages included "DC-10 Daiquiris" and "Bloody Garys" (for Gary Gilmore).

Now THAT was tasteless. Tasty, but tasteless

It is pretty clear that others are interested in the thread, based on the # of views.

People either think "great" or "awful and tasteless". So what would you have done .... stuck in your seatbelt, FA a good distance away, early morning flight and you know it will go on .. and on .. and on ... remember too, no headphones allowed.

I won't stand for it. Not from me, not from another passenger, not even from an FA.

Johnny Carson had his famous "rule of 3" -- If only the WN FA's would follow it, everyone would be a lot happier, not just me.
If it hasn't been successfully communicated already....here goes....it's not your place to "jar the FA into being quiet". You are NOT speaking for "everyone" as you seem to think.

What part of of the "public transportation" concept don't you get? Lemme 'splain: That was not your private jet, nor were those your servants. You are one of about 150 passengers on that aircraft. It's not your place to mouth off to a flight attendant, either for self interest or common interest. You want to be a hero? So do something like those real heros on Flight 93, or better yet, do something charitable. Spay or neuter your pet, you name it.

But please....do us all a favor.....keep yer big mouth shut in situations like this. If I happen to be within earshot of your next "performance" you will be (unkindly and harshly) reprimanded.
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
He finishes up and says "Any questions before the test?"
Taking credit for "silencing" the FA is a stretch. Do you think they don't encounter yo yo's like you ALL DAY? That a rude yelp from a customer making a rude, insensitive, OLD joke would "stun" them? Really?

In your OP you admited that he was finishing up so I'd say his annoucement was over when you had your sudden moment of lack of self control. So alas you don't win any awards.
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 11:19 pm
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To your comments:

1) Your casino example is not valid, because the floor supervisor was the problem.

2) I WAS the kid that got beat up. And yes, everyone I talked to basically said "tough". I was born with one leg longer than the other and the shorter leg not growing as fast ... so I walked funny and endured several surgeries growing up. So I know all about that. and yes, I would say, TOUGH.

3) I never said I was speaking for everyone. I have always maintained I was only speaking for myself. The fact that you and others countenance such behavior still amazes me. And if the FA doesn't want a response, then he should not have asked the question.

And I look forward to the day when I have a discussion with you on a plane. I would happily elevate this discussion anytime, anywhere.

To repeat, I never claimed to speak for the 136 (I think that is the capacity not counting myself) other passengers. And mouthing off? HE asked the question.

When I am on any other form of public transportation, be it the train, city bus, or another airline, I am not subjected to incessant drivel by the driver, conductor, purser, pilot, flight attendant or anyone else associated with the transportation company. Frankly, it is WN that really needs to grow up here, not me.

4) He was just finishing up the safety briefing. There was every indication he was going to continue on talking as the plane was taxiing to the runway. And he still let fly a few more when we landed. At least I could get off the plane then.
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Old Apr 29, 2011, 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
To your comments:

1) Your casino example is not valid, because the floor supervisor was the problem.

2) I WAS the kid that got beat up. And yes, everyone I talked to basically said "tough". I was born with one leg longer than the other and the shorter leg not growing as fast ... so I walked funny and endured several surgeries growing up. So I know all about that. and yes, I would say, TOUGH.

3) I never said I was speaking for everyone. I have always maintained I was only speaking for myself. The fact that you and others countenance such behavior still amazes me. And if the FA doesn't want a response, then he should not have asked the question.

And I look forward to the day when I have a discussion with you on a plane. I would happily elevate this discussion anytime, anywhere.

To repeat, I never claimed to speak for the 136 (I think that is the capacity not counting myself) other passengers. And mouthing off? HE asked the question.

When I am on any other form of public transportation, be it the train, city bus, or another airline, I am not subjected to incessant drivel by the driver, conductor, purser, pilot, flight attendant or anyone else associated with the transportation company. Frankly, it is WN that really needs to grow up here, not me.

4) He was just finishing up the safety briefing. There was every indication he was going to continue on talking as the plane was taxiing to the runway. And he still let fly a few more when we landed. At least I could get off the plane then.
lol, you're a real winner. but...but...HE ASKED ME.....but but....he was asking for it....get a life.
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Old Apr 29, 2011, 12:07 am
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Old Apr 29, 2011, 12:15 am
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I just find it amusing that the people that don't like what I did can't formulate any decent rebuttal to what I am saying.

So for those of you that tell me to get a life, or that as a child I giggled when a bully was accosting someone, or to keep my big mouth shut, I would tell you to take a debate class and try to learn how to formulate an argument. I would recommend learning how to focus on substance and then style.

Because a slightly watered down "you are a f***ing a**hole" just shows how simplistic you and your arguments were in the first place.
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Old Apr 29, 2011, 12:49 am
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
And suddenly, he decided to stop telling jokes .....
glad you enjoyed your 10 seconds of attention but I like that WN FAs tell jokes, far better than watching the atrocious, narcisstic CO, now UA, videos where the CEO comes on before the safety demo...would rather listen to a WN FA tell a bad joke than watch Jeff Smisek do a bland corporate PR show
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Old Apr 29, 2011, 1:46 am
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I could not agree more.

The notion that it is acceptable for US airlines to force advertisements and sales pitches on paying passengers is totally unacceptable to me also.

From puff pieces to travel partners to credit card solicitations "I would like just a few moments to go over the benefits of the XXX Visa card ..."

But at least with those I usually can don my headphones and/or read a book.

And I never said I enjoyed or even wanted "10 seconds of attention". What I wanted was a quiet, professional atmosphere and not a comedy act, especially during the early morning hours.

Which I finally got.

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Old Apr 29, 2011, 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by Orwaid
I just find it amusing that the people that don't like what I did can't formulate any decent rebuttal to what I am saying.

So for those of you that tell me to get a life, or that as a child I giggled when a bully was accosting someone, or to keep my big mouth shut, I would tell you to take a debate class and try to learn how to formulate an argument. I would recommend learning how to focus on substance and then style.

Because a slightly watered down "you are a f***ing a**hole" just shows how simplistic you and your arguments were in the first place.
sounds like you need to take another airline.

i find the fa jokes to be somewhat annoying but to give credit where credit is due, i won't knock anybody having a good time with their job. as lame as some of the jokes are, i realize there are probably more folks on the plane that have never heard the jokes than there are that have heard them endlessly. i actually get a chuckle out of the chuckles, more than the jokes.

my opinion of your triumphant "silencing of the flight attendant" matters little, but be assured it is negative. my biggest problem with it is the nervous first time flyer who has just mustered up every ounce of nerve they had to step foot on that airplane. i feel sorry for them, and i feel sorry for you too, and with that, i would have closed my eyes, put my head back relaxed and enjoyed my flight.
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