WN Emergency landing in Yuma

Old Apr 2, 2011, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by chanp
Just saw this on the news. Glad to see everyone was ok. Wonder what sorta comp they get from WN?
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 9:53 am
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DALLASApril 2, 2011--Southwest Airlines said today it is working with the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to determine the cause of a depressurization event during a Phoenix- Sacramento flight on Friday that diverted to Yuma, Ariz. Overnight, the airline worked with engineers from the Boeing Company to further assess the damage to the aircraft and develop an inspection regimen to look more closely at 79 (not 81 as was previously reported) of its Boeing 737 aircraft which are covered by a set of Federal Aviation Administration Airworthiness Directives aimed at inspections for aircraft skin fatigue. Those aircraft will be inspected over the course of the next several days at five locations.



Southwest expects to cancel approximately 300 flights today to accommodate the inspections. Customers may experience sporadic delays of up to two hours on some flights today. Customers should check the status of their particular flight or rebook their trip on southwest.com before heading to the airport.



"The safety of our Customers and Employees is our primary concern," said Mike Van de Ven, Southwest's executive vice president and chief operating officer. We are working closely with Boeing to conduct these proactive inspections and support the investigation. We also are working aggressively to attempt to minimize the impact to our Customers' travel schedules today.



The 118 passengers on board Flight 812 have received a full refund along with an apology and two complimentary roundtrip passes on Southwest for future flights.



Preliminary reports indicated the aircraft lost pressure and oxygen masks were deployed shortly after takeoff from Phoenix. After the plane landed safely in Yuma, the crew confirmed a hole in the top of the aircraft, approximately mid-cabin. One flight attendant was treated at the scene for a minor injury, as was at least one passenger. No injuries required transport to the hospital. The Company arranged for a Southwest Airlines aircraft to transport the Customers on Flight 812 from Yuma to Sacramento last night.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 10:31 am
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Originally Posted by boycruz
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S.../KNYL/tracklog


3 minutes to go from flight level to 10,000 quick
So what I'm reading is they descended 17,000 feet in a 1 minute time frame (at 6.59 pm)?
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 11:18 am
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Originally Posted by chanp
Just saw this on the news. Glad to see everyone was ok. Wonder what sorta comp they get from WN?
Well if this was someone like Ryanair they would all get charged an extra $25 for "Use of optional sunroof fee."
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by enviroian
Originally Posted by boycruz
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/S.../KNYL/tracklog


3 minutes to go from flight level to 10,000 quick
So what I'm reading is they descended 17,000 feet in a 1 minute time frame (at 6.59 pm)?
Flightaware is probably incorrect there. They can drop the plane quick, but not that quick. It's not an uncontrolled dive like people on the news are making it out to be. Throw the spoilers up and down you go. Probably took 3 min to get under 15,000 feet.

People were texting I'm sure after the plane got down low. It's easier to get a cell signal at 11,000 than 30,000 feet.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 11:42 am
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DALLASApril 2, 2011--Southwest Airlines said today it is working with the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to determine the cause of a depressurization event...
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 11:49 am
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Flightaware is probably incorrect there. They can drop the plane quick, but not that quick. It's not an uncontrolled dive like people on the news are making it out to be. Throw the spoilers up and down you go. Probably took 3 min to get under 15,000 feet.

People were texting I'm sure after the plane got down low. It's easier to get a cell signal at 11,000 than 30,000 feet.
it's probably accurate. in a loss of cabin pressure situation the pilot won't mess around, every second is precious. ride comfort goes out the...."window" so to speak. it isn't an uncontrolled dive, but to the passengers it will seem that way.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 12:08 pm
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Bringing this back to SWA focus, are there any public records to indicate whether SWA participates in this outside America maintenance practice to cut costs, and if so, the extent?
Potential red herring here. Some of these "third world" facilities provide a level of service exceeding what you would find in a US based shop. The airlines should feel lucky Oberstar got fired by the MN tea party; he'd be all over this like white on rice.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 12:14 pm
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Flightaware is probably incorrect there. They can drop the plane quick, but not that quick. It's not an uncontrolled dive like people on the news are making it out to be. Throw the spoilers up and down you go. Probably took 3 min to get under 15,000 feet.

People were texting I'm sure after the plane got down low. It's easier to get a cell signal at 11,000 than 30,000 feet.
It appears at 6:59 Flightaware incorrectly added 5520 feet instead of subtracting it. Correcting that error it would be a smoother slower descent.

6:58pm FL 30,700 +780
6:59pm FL 25,180 -5,520
7:00pm FL 19,700 -5,480
7:01pm FL 14,600 -4320

And I doubt anyone could lock on any cell tower at a ground speed of 348 mph... by the time your phone starts negotiating you've probably gone out of range AND passed the many more towers. A text could be composed, qued and sent when on the ground.

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Old Apr 2, 2011, 12:32 pm
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Southwest Airlines Flight 812 Why Airplanes Fall Apart

A Southwest flight from Phoenix to Sacramento was forced to make an emergency landing Friday when a hole opened in the roof. Aviation expert Clive Irving reports on why outsourcing may be a culprit.

Southwest Airlines grounded 81 of its oldest jets Saturday following an alarming emergency last night when the cabin of one of its Boeing 737s was ripped open at 36,000 feet.

The incident, aboard Southwest Airlines Flight 812 is strikingly similar to what happened to Southwest Airlines Flight 2294 in July 2009only worse.

In both cases there was a sudden loss of cabin pressure as part of the fuselage structure failed. In both cases the pilots had to get the airplane on the ground as fast as possible, making diversions.

And in both cases the airplane involved was the Boeing 737the only airplane Southwest flies, in a variety of models and ages.

Flight 2294 was en route from Nashville to Baltimore when passengers heard a loud pop and a hole the size of a football appeared in the roof. On Friday night, as Flight 812 was en route from Phoenix to Sacramento, there was a jarring blast and a hole opened up in the roof, far larger than a football.

As scary as these events wereand they are very scaryboth airplanes landed safely and nobody was injured.

That is where the good news ends.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...es-fall-apart/
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 2:08 pm
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More details here, some quite colorful. Sounds more harrowing than I had imagined. At least 2 people passed out.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/la...on-board-95825
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by chanp
Just saw this on the news. Glad to see everyone was ok. Wonder what sorta comp they get from WN?
Amazing...what comp??? They all got an excellent response by the flight crew, FAs and the performance of the oxygen generators and masks. The plane made a safe, although certainly frightening, descent and a safe landing.

What comp?? UNBELIEVABLE that this question would even be asked.
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 2:18 pm
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yes, they did.

Originally Posted by chanp
Just saw this on the news. Glad to see everyone was ok. Wonder what sorta comp they get from WN?
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 2:37 pm
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Old Apr 2, 2011, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by DontCallMeShirley
yes, they did.
From the Southwest Press Release (conveniently hidden deep in the Southwest site):

"The 118 passengers on board Flight 812 have received a full refund along with an apology and two complimentary roundtrip passes on Southwest for future flights."

Full press release here:

http://www.southwest.com/about_swa/p...ER-ABOUT-PRESS

Still can't believe that there is NOTHING about this or any of the flight cancellations cause by this on the SWA homepage... not at all what I expected from the SWA that I grew up with.

This is clearly a new ship, sailing in a very different direction.
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