Rapid Rewards 2.0 begins March 1, 2011
#1111
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: STL
Programs: MR Plat Premier, IHG Spire, Hilton Diamond, Southwest CP
Posts: 623
Those flights are still not showing up under "My Travel" in the new system for me either. Who knows, maybe under the new system they never will show up. However, you should have received email confirmations with the reservation number when you booked. I can still pull up the flights manually. I just can't see them all at once like in past.
#1112
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: Delighted to no longer be in Illinois
Programs: SW A List Preferred, Delta Gold, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 703
Well, you're a step ahead of me then. My previously booked companion pass reservations are NOT showing up under "My Travel". Go figure.
#1113
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: WN peon (was A+), IHG Plat Hilton HHonors Gold DL SkyPesos PM (still a peon) US Chmn, Hawaiian Haole
Posts: 1,166
Jury still out on redemptions
Could RR 2.0 be unsustainably generous to some passengers?
With all the talk of devaluation, there's been almost no attention paid to the folks who are going to make out like bandits. There are going to be quite a few perma-A+ passengers. When they fly BS they'll be earning 24 points per dollar, essentially forever. Consider someone who flies 4 BS OW flights per month at $300 each. That's $14,400 of "airfare", and at 24 points per dollar, 345,600 points per year. At 60 points per dollar for WGA redemptions, that's enough points for $5,760 of "airfare," a 40% "rebate." Even if used on $320 RTs, that's the equivalent of 18 Standard Awards. Under the old rules, that passenger would have earned between 60 and 96 credits, so 3.75 to 6 RTs. That person is at least 3x better off under 2.0. There are going to be people who have points out the wazoo.
Corporate travelers in circumstances like this won't care much about the redemption rate for international and Hawai'i travel, they'll have more points than they can possibly use. I think most of us, however, will find those redemption rates horribly unattractive.
With all the talk of devaluation, there's been almost no attention paid to the folks who are going to make out like bandits. There are going to be quite a few perma-A+ passengers. When they fly BS they'll be earning 24 points per dollar, essentially forever. Consider someone who flies 4 BS OW flights per month at $300 each. That's $14,400 of "airfare", and at 24 points per dollar, 345,600 points per year. At 60 points per dollar for WGA redemptions, that's enough points for $5,760 of "airfare," a 40% "rebate." Even if used on $320 RTs, that's the equivalent of 18 Standard Awards. Under the old rules, that passenger would have earned between 60 and 96 credits, so 3.75 to 6 RTs. That person is at least 3x better off under 2.0. There are going to be people who have points out the wazoo.
Corporate travelers in circumstances like this won't care much about the redemption rate for international and Hawai'i travel, they'll have more points than they can possibly use. I think most of us, however, will find those redemption rates horribly unattractive.
#1114
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: UA GOLD MM,WN CP A+list, HH Gold,MR LT Titanium
Posts: 2,184
Am I losing by not using RR Visa?
I have been trying,pretty much unsuccessfully, to wrap my hands around whether to continue to use my RR Visa.
I am A-list,CP expires 2012.
I have enough awards for now and will continue to accumulate through flying,although very much diminished since I have encountered so many problems with the website and WN's attitudes toward their responsibility for them.
I have always used my Visa to supplement if necessary, to attain CP. Since I do not need to requalify until 2012, am I correct in thinking that except for point accrual, there is no point in me using the Visa over another CC for the remainder of 2011?
I am A-list,CP expires 2012.
I have enough awards for now and will continue to accumulate through flying,although very much diminished since I have encountered so many problems with the website and WN's attitudes toward their responsibility for them.
I have always used my Visa to supplement if necessary, to attain CP. Since I do not need to requalify until 2012, am I correct in thinking that except for point accrual, there is no point in me using the Visa over another CC for the remainder of 2011?
#1115
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Original Poster
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,619
Correct. I would cancel the RR Visa (assuming you have held it > 6 months) and plan to reapply late Dec 2011 for a juicy Jan 2012 signup bonus. If you are a low-fare customer whose only hope for CP renewal is reaching 100 paid flights, then what you do with the Visa card doesn't really matter.
#1116
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: UA GOLD MM,WN CP A+list, HH Gold,MR LT Titanium
Posts: 2,184
Correct. I would cancel the RR Visa (assuming you have held it > 6 months) and plan to reapply late Dec 2011 for a juicy Jan 2012 signup bonus. If you are a low-fare customer whose only hope for CP renewal is reaching 100 paid flights, then what you do with the Visa card doesn't really matter.
#1117
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DFW
Posts: 1,249
I have held the card for several years so canceling is not a problem. I usually purchase Anytime fares with an occasional BS thrown in,unless it is a leisure trip with the family which will be WGA fare. But I still do not see the Visa being much value to me for the rest of this year-do you agree?
#1118
Join Date: May 1999
Posts: 1,627
I must have missed something. How do you cash out points at 1.67 cents per point without having to reach any threshold? For example, suppose I collect 600 points for a car rental. How do I get my $8 for those points?
#1120
Join Date: May 2010
Location: HOU, occasional IAH
Programs: WN A+ CP, IHG Status-of-the-Day, Avis First. **Freedom fighter: One grope at a time.**
Posts: 392
Mr. Pearl (who is retired and only travels on my CP) received an offer to apply for the premier card. I, on the other hand (the one still working who actually pays for all the travel) have not received the offer. I keep thinking they'll invite me to apply rather than me having to contact them and ask. You'd think they would want me to upgrade since there is a higher annual fee. Am I missing something here?
#1121
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Globalist, M life Gold, IHG Spire
Posts: 918
I have held the card for several years so canceling is not a problem. I usually purchase Anytime fares with an occasional BS thrown in,unless it is a leisure trip with the family which will be WGA fare. But I still do not see the Visa being much value to me for the rest of this year-do you agree?
nerdwallet has a bunch of reward offers to compare.
Last edited by jn in ca; Mar 17, 2011 at 11:59 am
#1122
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Aug 2003
Programs: UA 1K 1MM (finally!), IHG AMB-Spire, HH Diamond
Posts: 60,156
Just logged in today first time since program switched over.
WN's website, from booking now to RR, has gotten complicated, convoluted, and just plain messy. And my award still expires only 1 year after having earned it.
WN's website, from booking now to RR, has gotten complicated, convoluted, and just plain messy. And my award still expires only 1 year after having earned it.
#1123