Miami tolls are the biggest tourist rip-off in the country
I think Miami has devised the "perfect" way to rip-off and annoy visitors who rent cars -- even more diabolical than the absurd taxes one has to pay for a rental car picked up at the airport.
I'm talking about the Toll-By-Plate scheme and a very unholy alliance between the state toll authority and the rental car companies. This has been kicking around for a few years now, but now that the highways from the Miami airport to I-95 (and downtown and Miami Beach) have gone "cashless," it's going to cost visitors a huge sum of money and aggravation. Before renting a car at MIA, carefully review the toll policies of the various rental car companies. I believe the current information is here: https://www.tollbyplate.com/rentalcar Basically, it's now almost impossible to pick up a car at MIA and not drive on a cashless toll highway. That means you're going to trigger the collection rules of your rental car company. Some companies require an "opt in," and if you don't opt-in and wind up driivng a cashless toll road (which you almost certainly will from the MIA airport), you're going to have to pay big bucks. "Opting-In" is a bad deal, but it's a heck of a better deal than the penalties you'll pay if you don't. I just rented from National, which has one of the more "humane" policies -- still a major rip-off, but humane. With National, you automatically pay $3.95 for each day you drive a cashless toll road. There's no opting in or opting out. You are then also billed at the "toll by plate" rate, which is generally twice the regular toll rate charged to all locals who have the Sunpass device. With a rental car, you are not allowed to get a Sunpass for the vehicle, or independently pay the "toll by plate" rates -- you MUST pay National's daily surcharge. In four days of driving around Miami (including a visit to the Everglades) I figure this cost me about $25 more than what the tolls would have cost me had I been allowed to pay cash like in the "old days." Nice, right? But as I say, I was lucky. Those who don't know the rules, or who rent from less reputable car rental companies, will get ripped-off more. How this system was allowed to be created is unimaginable. But I guess nobody cares about treating visitors fairly. At least not in Miami. EDIT: If you read further into the thread, you can see that it IS possible with a little effort to get your own Sunpass transponder, freeing yourself from the usurious toll rates set by the government and rental car companies. |
Fly into FLL?
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Originally Posted by dieuwer2
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Fly into FLL?
First, you can completely avoid the toll problem (you're not allowed to take a rental car on the Dade County "express" toll lanes on I-95 anyway). And despite the slightly further distance, you might save time because renting a car at FLL is so much faster than renting a car from MIA. Other than making sure you know where the Dade County toll roads are (and stay off the Turnpike everywhere in Florida, which is easy enough), the only potential problem is if you want to head to the Everglades or the Keys. You can avoid the toll on the Turnpike's Homestead extension by driving US 1 through the southern Miami neighborhoods. It's not great, but doable. |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 24204584)
How this system was allowed to be created is unimaginable. But I guess nobody cares about treating visitors fairly. At least not in Miami.
How long before other cities study the Miami model and emulate it, with all kinds of encouragement from the rental car lobby? |
Don't forget the 'express' lanes on the highway . I accidentally got stuck in one . Never did get a bill for it.
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Orlando is very similar though I do think at the moment there are still cash options at most of the toll booths (but I'm sure before too long those will go away as well.) And while it is possible to get into or out of the airport without traversing a toll road, it takes effort. You can't just follow the signs as those will direct you to the "toll" options.
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Originally Posted by United_727
(Post 24207224)
Don't forget the 'express' lanes on the highway . I accidentally got stuck in one . Never did get a bill for it.
Originally Posted by hhoope01
(Post 24207406)
Orlando is very similar though I do think at the moment there are still cash options at most of the toll booths (but I'm sure before too long those will go away as well.) And while it is possible to get into or out of the airport without traversing a toll road, it takes effort. You can't just follow the signs as those will direct you to the "toll" options.
BTW, I've recently been in JNB and they've instituted cashless toll roads, too. The difference is you're just billed at the regular price that everyone else pays. I rang up less than US$3.00 in a couple of days, and probably went through 10 tolls. I guess it's just the mentality: either you're going to treat visitors fairly, or you're going to fleece them. Florida has gone for fleecing. |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 24207983)
Originally Posted by hhoope01
(Post 24207406)
Orlando is very similar though I do think at the moment there are still cash options at most of the toll booths (but I'm sure before too long those will go away as well.) And while it is possible to get into or out of the airport without traversing a toll road, it takes effort. You can't just follow the signs as those will direct you to the "toll" options.
FWIW, the marketing gurus have renamed the Bee Line Expressway to the Beachline Expressway (still known also as SR-528 either way). |
The toll by plate deal in some cases was a response to HIDEOUS backups at the cash lanes which spilled over to the sunpass lanes on the veterans expressway outside Tampa for one example.
I for one am glad they hosed the toll plaza near Linebaugh - the vast majority of traffic on the Vet is locals and the backup is gone. Visitors will obviously feel different about it, but a traffic jam on a road you commute on and pay for is no fun. |
Originally Posted by djk7
(Post 24209120)
The Orlando area toll roads still have toll takers at all plazas and I haven't read of any plans to change this. Note that on and off ramp toll booths are not manned but you still have the option to use coins.
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Definitely fly into FLL.
I live in Florida part time, and have an Epass from the Central Florida Turnpike roadways. It also works in southern Florida in the SUNpass lanes. I take the Florida Turnpike from Orlando to Miami simply to avoid the rush on I-95, but it's costly. And in Miami? Yes, the OP is, IMO, correct. It's an expensive city to toll around in. And sometimes there are non-English-Speaking tourists that get into the SUNpass ONLY lanes and tie up traffic when the gates do not swing up, because they do not have a SUNpass transponder. Tough call, but as a part-time Floridian, I can honestly say that between Orlando and Miami, it's an expensive toll system. I try and avoid the tolls when I can, but sometimes business and timing make it hard. Time is also money. I have to balance the two costs. |
Originally Posted by LowlyDLsilver
(Post 24211509)
I for one am glad they hosed the toll plaza near Linebaugh - the vast majority of traffic on the Vet is locals and the backup is gone. Visitors will obviously feel different about it, but a traffic jam on a road you commute on and pay for is no fun.
As I mentioned, Johannesburg has recently implemented cashless tolls and the system works fine for tourists. There's a little device in your car that records your travels and the rental car company bills you that amount a couple days after your rental at the (modest) "regular" prices. There's absolutely no reason Florida couldn't do the same. Moreover, nobody would complain if the rental car companies were allowed to tack on a buck or two to that total for this billing effort. As a tourist, I have also encountered "toll by plate" on the Golden Gate bridge in SFO. Given the tourist traffic there, it seems like also an odd place not to have a manned lane (especially since they still have such lanes on the Bay Bridge). But California does allow you to go online -- even after your trip -- to pay the regular toll and avoid rental car surcharges. Florida could also do this as well. To force tourists to pay the hefty surcharges AND double tolls is outrageous.
Originally Posted by angatol
(Post 24211566)
Was ripped off by Avis a couple of weeks ago. $20 for $2.60 of plate tolls that couldn't be paid cash. Was never told about tolls at rental time. Never again Avis.
You say "never again Avis" but their system isn't one of the worst offenders. I think they charge a buck more each day than National/Alamo/Enterprise. As I said, for a visitor renting a car at MIA, it's very difficult to avoid being fleeced by this.
Originally Posted by RobbieRunner
(Post 24211624)
Definitely fly into FLL.
I live in Florida part time, and have an Epass from the Central Florida Turnpike roadways. It also works in southern Florida in the SUNpass lanes. I take the Florida Turnpike from Orlando to Miami simply to avoid the rush on I-95, but it's costly. And in Miami? Yes, the OP is, IMO, correct. It's an expensive city to toll around in. For So. Fla. visitors -- at least those avoiding the Everglades and the Keys -- flying into FLL can definitely avoid this toll hassle. Just stick to I-95, avoiding the Sunpass-posted "express lanes" in Dade County. If you're headed anywhere "west," just make sure the highway you're taking doesn't have a toll. |
Originally Posted by iahphx
(Post 24213160)
The Fla. Turnpike has been oddly expensive by USA toll-road standards for many years. It generally saves little time between So. Fla. and Orlando, so I generally avoid it, and just pay the modest B-Line toll after driving up I-95. That's still an option -- as long as the B-line remains "manned."
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Originally Posted by djk7
(Post 24213630)
As a side note, I-95 wasn't completed in south Florida until 1987, and there had been talk in the late '70s and early '80s that it might never be (similarly, I-75 south of Tampa wasn't finished until 1986, with the same talk). So for over 20 years, the turnpike did save a lot of time, but since I-95 has been completed, there seems to be little value in using it south of Ft. Pierce.
As you allude to, though, this has been obvious for decades, and nothing has changed. I'm not holding my breath for a "transportation visionary" in South Florida. I'd just like them to stop fleecing me now. :) |
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