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Old Feb 18, 2015, 8:29 pm
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SAA 204 - IAD to JNB

Hello fellow FT'ers:

SAA's flight 204 from Washington IAD to Johannesburg JNB stops in DKR pretty much mid-point in the journey (about 1am New York time or some 7.5 hours into the journey).

From memory, a dinner is served on departure from IAD and a breakfast is served (by the rotated crew) on departure from DKR.

Is there a pre-arrival meal?

Anyone have the menu for the flight?

As for the seats, has SAA updated its Business Class at all in the many years?

Thanks so much!^

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Old Feb 18, 2015, 10:54 pm
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As for seats, SA was one of the early adopters of lie flat business seats, so except for one rogue A340 in the fleet, people still speak well of the product.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
As for seats, SA was one of the early adopters of lie flat business seats, so except for one rogue A340 in the fleet, people still speak well of the product.
SAA retired the last remaining 340 200 ZS-SLF in June 2014 so the business class product is horizontal lie flat across the A330/340 fleet. IMO it's still a good seat, one of the better out there.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 12:31 am
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
As for seats, SA was one of the early adopters of lie flat business seats, so except for one rogue A340 in the fleet, people still speak well of the product.
All the A340s and A330s have full lie flat seats.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 5:44 am
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Originally Posted by gcuk
SAA retired the last remaining 340 200 ZS-SLF in June 2014 so the business class product is horizontal lie flat across the A330/340 fleet. IMO it's still a good seat, one of the better out there.
^ Excellent to know it was retired. I missed that post when it happened last year.
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Old Feb 19, 2015, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
^ Excellent to know it was retired. I missed that post when it happened last year.
Even so, for most of their life with SAA (excluding the first few months), the A340-200s had the same lie flat seat in business class that the A340-300s and -600s had. It was the economy class cabin that was inferior.
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Old Feb 22, 2015, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by dvs7310
As for seats, SA was one of the early adopters of lie flat business seats, so except for one rogue A340 in the fleet, people still speak well of the product.
I was blown away in 2009 on my first trip - fast fwd to 2015 and I am wondering if anything has changed.

Some complain about a gap in the middle of the seat (where the sections meet), and taller folks find the seat is not great at heights above 1.90m

Finally, there is the question of bedding and mattress pads - any enhancements there?

I have read of some complaints that a journey of 17 hours should have more than a departure dinner and an arrival breakfast (arrival 5:40pm). Why not a full departure dinner; breakfast on leaving DKR; and then lunch/dinner service on arrival - at least in front (C cabin)? @:-)

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Old Feb 23, 2015, 12:34 pm
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So IAD is now served by a -300 or -600?
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Old Feb 23, 2015, 12:40 pm
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So IAD is now served by a -300 or -600?
An A330...
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Old Feb 24, 2015, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by FFFlyer
An A330...
Well duh. Blonde moment.

Surely they jest...economy seat width of 19-20"??

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Sou...s_A330-200.php
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Old Mar 2, 2015, 8:10 pm
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Menu for SA 208, circa Nov 2013

IAD-DKR:







SA 208 DKR-JNB:





More details here
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Old Mar 4, 2015, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by worldtraveller73
Menu for SA 208, circa Nov 2013

IAD-DKR:







SA 208 DKR-JNB:





More details here
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That's a little scary...just landed in JNB and the "circa 2013" menu is the same

Great flight, crew, seats, bedding, service, food, menu etc etc.

Cheers.
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Old Mar 5, 2015, 11:21 pm
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Well SAA is a bit of an odd duck in Star Alliance.

There isn't anything wrong with it. You just need to temper expectations accordingly when flying them. I personally like the large space between seats. Much less density than most carriers these days.
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Old Mar 6, 2015, 4:24 pm
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It was an excellent flight. Arrived into JNB some 45 minutes early; passport check wasn't too onerous (though I can see how the line can be endless) and kudos to the ground team - our Priority bags were waiting for us in a roped-off Priority Area - much faster than back home in North America. Both crews excellent too. And indeed, three hot meals were served along the way - all delicious - and each course of each meal was noteworthy with an excellent vegetarian-friendly option - kudos SAA!

Originally Posted by worldtraveller73
Well SAA is a bit of an odd duck in Star Alliance.

There isn't anything wrong with it. You just need to temper expectations accordingly when flying them. I personally like the large space between seats. Much less density than most carriers these days.

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Old Mar 17, 2015, 1:30 pm
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I will be on this flight in 3 weeks, April 5, in J.

What's the best strategy for sleeping? Do you sleep on the first leg and stay awake on the second? Or try to get ll the sleep done on the second only? Or some sleep on both legs?

How are the movie choices?
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