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sbm12 Nov 15, 2007 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by apoivre (Post 8735433)
But does it still say "Miles earned on CZ will not count for the validation of your level"? It did on KLM pages a few minutes ago (note that AF and KL pages are different) so it's still definitely the old text.

Incidentally, DL updated their earning table. Now it says classes M and G will only earn 40% - do I take it lower classes that are not specifically excluded will still get full miles? :cool:

Not surprisingly, CO hasn't moved CZ into the SkyTeam section of their partner page yet. And M/G are 40% there as well. There is the fine print that states:

Originally Posted by CO.O.L
* A minimum 500 base miles or 100% of actual flown miles, whichever is greater, will be earned for all fare classes excluding G and M.

I don't know how many fare buckets they actually use, but it is interesting to see the limitations spelled out so as to leave the earning open to newly added buckets versus the traditional nothing unless otherwise specified approach.

nomad1974 Nov 16, 2007 4:53 am


Originally Posted by apoivre (Post 8735433)
But does it still say "Miles earned on CZ will not count for the validation of your level"? It did on KLM pages a few minutes ago (note that AF and KL pages are different) so it's still definitely the old text.

No, it does not. But then again the AF site does not have that kind of wording for any partner. It has a separate page altogether for SkyTeam partners so it is expected (also as mentioned on the page about the different levels) that ALL SkyTeam flights earn qualifying miles.

apoivre Nov 16, 2007 7:20 am


Originally Posted by nomad1974 (Post 8739805)
No, it does not. But then again the AF site does not have that kind of wording for any partner. It has a separate page altogether for SkyTeam partners so it is expected (also as mentioned on the page about the different levels) that ALL SkyTeam flights earn qualifying miles.

As of right now, the KL page says those miles will count for level but continues to spell out the old booking codes. If they have no intention to change those, it is indeed pathetic.

henanbuzz2000 Nov 22, 2007 7:16 am

Cz December Sale-- Great Sale Here On Cz Website. Almost All Of Intra South China At Y160 Ow. I Booked Dec 11-29 Rt Nng-can At Y570 Including All Taxes And Contruction Fees. They Are Advertising At 70percent Discount. Now To See If They Can Get Me Into Their Reporting System.

henanbuzz2000 Nov 22, 2007 9:10 pm

good luck, i still have trouble with agents in can and that is home training base. when i ask for something here in nng they say "wo ting bu dong" meaning i dont know. I also booked with them dec 11 to can so will be interesting to see what happens as that is first leg of flites to nrt and mco on dec. 12. good luck.

henanbuzz2000 Nov 29, 2007 12:17 am

http://www.csair.com/en/
this link is working today but these prices are about double what you
can get from online or local ta

jsfr Dec 7, 2007 4:17 am

Flew on Nov 18 Guilin-Kunming (60% discount 760 Yuan).

The airport was plastered with announcements about CZ joining Skyteam - however, of course, the Check-in agent had never heard of Skyteam and didn't recognise my Platinum (Elite Plus) card and refused to give me the extra luggage allowance. Then she had absolutely no problem with me taking a 16kg bag on board as hand luggage....

The ABSOLUTELY AMAZING thing is that the mile posted correctly, automatically three days later. And yes, they posted as qualifing miles and a qualifying flight with the Elite bonus.

apoivre Dec 7, 2007 9:18 am


Originally Posted by jsfr (Post 8853910)
Flew on Nov 18 Guilin-Kunming (60% discount 760 Yuan).

The ABSOLUTELY AMAZING thing is that the mile posted correctly, automatically three days later. And yes, they posted as qualifing miles and a qualifying flight with the Elite bonus.

According to yoee.com, Y760 is 10% discount (that is, it's 90% of Y fare). But even this booking code is excluded from earning miles with FB. So it's either Flying Blue actually gives out miles for more booking codes than they claim to (generous by nature... yeah, right :cool:) or CZ staff/system checks everyone in as Y (as used to be the case with QR fares posting to Miles and More in the first months of their partnership). Good news, either way

P.S. I assume you're talking about FB here, looking at your affiliation in the profile

allenkeys Dec 7, 2007 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by jsfr (Post 8853910)
the Check-in agent had never heard of Skyteam and didn't recognise my Platinum (Elite Plus) card and refused to give me the extra luggage allowance.

Extra luggage allowance is not an ST E or E+ benefit. There may be some individual rules between partner ailines, but as a DL Plat I get no extra allowance on any ST flights except DL.

You do, however get a priority baggage tag to ensure it's one of the last on the carousel:)

jsfr Dec 8, 2007 2:28 am


Originally Posted by apoivre (Post 8855078)
According to yoee.com, Y760 is 10% discount (that is, it's 90% of Y fare). But even this booking code is excluded from earning miles with FB. So it's either Flying Blue actually gives out miles for more booking codes than they claim to (generous by nature... yeah, right :cool:) or CZ staff/system checks everyone in as Y (as used to be the case with QR fares posting to Miles and More in the first months of their partnership). Good news, either way

P.S. I assume you're talking about FB here, looking at your affiliation in the profile

Yes indeed!
Which is why I was expecting the extra luggage allowance listed on their site. I still got from A to B with only 2 hours delay.....

bchl Dec 8, 2007 2:50 am

the extra luggage perk was even already available BEFORE CZ entered Skyteam for AF/KL card holders. Usually works in PEK but talking about a rural airport, don't expect much from ground staff :)


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