Master thread to document China Southern's entry (merged threads)
Nov 8, 2007, 11:20 am
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[QUOTE=spgaston;8684063]I am very tall and asked about an exit row at checkin and they said it was against regulation. Perhaps because I don't speak Chinese?QUOTE]
I was told the same thing 2 weeks ago checking in with CZ at HKG. According to the check-in agent, it is a rule that exit row PAX have to speak Mandarin.
I was told the same thing 2 weeks ago checking in with CZ at HKG. According to the check-in agent, it is a rule that exit row PAX have to speak Mandarin.
Nov 10, 2007, 1:57 pm
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China Southern logo included within SkyteamTimetable
Another observation, the China Southern logo has just been included within the latest SkyteamTimetable application..... seems like the ST timetable team is a little quicker off the mark than the ST web designers 
Nov 11, 2007, 12:22 pm
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Another observation, the China Southern logo has just been included within the latest SkyteamTimetable application..... seems like the ST timetable team is a little quicker off the mark than the ST web designers..........
Really, I don't see it. Where should I look? Thanks
Really, I don't see it. Where should I look? Thanks
Nov 11, 2007, 1:48 pm
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Another observation, the China Southern logo has just been included within the latest SkyteamTimetable application..... seems like the ST timetable team is a little quicker off the mark than the ST web designers..........
Really, I don't see it. Where should I look? Thanks
Really, I don't see it. Where should I look? Thanks
Nov 15, 2007, 2:20 am
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Did you guys know that CZ is giving out free tickets (including int'l) for whoever's born on Nov 15 and is flying CZ on the same day?
http://www.csair.com/en/ec/adsense/adweb/0711130916.asp
interesting..
http://www.csair.com/en/ec/adsense/adweb/0711130916.asp
interesting..
Nov 15, 2007, 2:54 am
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Air France has just posted the earnings rates for CZ flights in Flying Blue on their website. On first glance it looks VERY disappointing for two reasons:
1) No earnings on direct flights between France and China/Hong Kong.
2) Only classes A, C, D, F, W, Y are eligible for mileage accrual.
What on earth is this?! A 2nd class partner(ship) or what?!
1) No earnings on direct flights between France and China/Hong Kong.
2) Only classes A, C, D, F, W, Y are eligible for mileage accrual.
What on earth is this?! A 2nd class partner(ship) or what?!
Nov 15, 2007, 3:10 am
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China Southern Airlines becomes the 11th skyteam member (lemonde.fr 9:37 am)
===== this post should be moved into the main thread related to china southern airlines. Thanks =====================
A short announcement in French newspaper Lemonde.fr about the 11th newcomer in Skyteam Alliance; China Shoutern Airlines
Read in france :
http://abonnes.lemonde.fr/web/actuim...3233056,0.html (access only for registered people at lemonde.fr).
Here is the content:
" China Southern Airlines, la plus grande compagnie de Chine continentale, rejoint l'alliance commerciale SkyTeam, dont elle devient le onzième membre. "
Cheers,
Jeremie
A short announcement in French newspaper Lemonde.fr about the 11th newcomer in Skyteam Alliance; China Shoutern Airlines
Read in france :
http://abonnes.lemonde.fr/web/actuim...3233056,0.html (access only for registered people at lemonde.fr).
Here is the content:
" China Southern Airlines, la plus grande compagnie de Chine continentale, rejoint l'alliance commerciale SkyTeam, dont elle devient le onzième membre. "
Cheers,
Jeremie
Last edited by jerybis; Nov 15, 2007 at 3:38 am Reason: Didn't see the master thread. Please move it into it. Thanks
Nov 15, 2007, 3:44 am
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Cheers,
/Jer
Last edited by jerybis; Nov 15, 2007 at 3:50 am
Nov 15, 2007, 3:46 am
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It's official...
SKYTEAM WELCOMES CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES AS FIRST CHINESE CARRIER
SkyTeam Becomes First Alliance to Add Carrier from Mainland China
http://www.skyteam.com/EN/aboutSkyte...r/pr151107.jsp
SkyTeam Becomes First Alliance to Add Carrier from Mainland China
http://www.skyteam.com/EN/aboutSkyte...r/pr151107.jsp
Nov 15, 2007, 6:49 am
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Air France has just posted the earnings rates for CZ flights in Flying Blue on their website. On first glance it looks VERY disappointing for two reasons:
1) No earnings on direct flights between France and China/Hong Kong.
2) Only classes A, C, D, F, W, Y are eligible for mileage accrual.
What on earth is this?! A 2nd class partner(ship) or what?!
1) No earnings on direct flights between France and China/Hong Kong.
2) Only classes A, C, D, F, W, Y are eligible for mileage accrual.
What on earth is this?! A 2nd class partner(ship) or what?!
Nov 15, 2007, 9:00 am
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Nov 15, 2007, 9:47 am
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Official Press Release from SkyTeam Website
SKYTEAM WELCOMES CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES AS FIRST CHINESE CARRIER
SkyTeam Becomes First Alliance to Add Carrier from Mainland China
BEIJING, November 15, 2007 - Today China Southern Airlines officially became the 11th full member of SkyTeam, making the alliance the first to welcome a carrier from mainland China. China is one of the fastest growing aviation markets in the world and the addition of China Southern allows SkyTeam to provide its customers around the world with greater travel options to one of the world's top tourist destinations.
With the addition of China Southern Airlines, SkyTeam now serves approximately 428 million annual passengers through a worldwide system of nearly 16,400 daily flights covering 841 destinations in 162 countries. China Southern, with the most extensive airline route network in China, operates the largest and most advanced airline fleet in th country. The carrier is also widely recognized for its safety and customer service standards, and was honored with the Three-Star Safety Award by the Civil Aviation Administration of China in 2006 - the most prestigious award in safe flight operations in the Chinese aviation industry.
"We are excited to welcome China Southern Airlines, one of Asia's largest and leading carriers, into our network," said Leo van Wijk, chairman of the SkyTeam Governing Board. "This move allows us to offer our customers unparalleled access to the markets they want to reach. Offering the highest flight frequencies in China, China Southern's membership strengthens the alliance's position in serving the world's fastest growing markets."
The addition of China Southern also bolsters the alliance's global hub network with the addition of Baiyun International Airport, a well-positioned, modern hub in Guangzhou, and Beijing Capital International Airport. China Southern is the first carrier in China to operate its own terminal at Beijing Capital International Airport, China's busiest hub.
"SkyTeam is known for its unrivaled global connectivity and as a member, we can better serve our customers, particularly as the 2008 Beijing Olympics approach," said Liu Shao Yong, Chairman of China Southern Airlines, at a welcome ceremony in Beijing. "China Southern's extensive intra-Asia network serves as a powerful link in SkyTeam's robust global network," added Mr. Liu.
The welcome ceremony, which took place at Great Hall of the People in Beijing, was attended by Liu Shao Yong, Chairman of China Southern Airlines; Yang Yuanyuan, director, Civil Aviation Administration of China, General Administration; Leo van Wijk, SkyTeam Governing Board Chairman; as well as Yang Ho Cho, Chairman and CEO of Korean Air; and other SkyTeam representatives.
China Southern Airlines made significant progress and fulfilled all SkyTeam alliance membership requirements since signing a memorandum for membership in August 2004. The carrier earned recognition as a SkyTeam member airline after reaching a number of agreements with each of the alliance member carriers, including bilateral codesharing, frequent flyer and lounge agreements.
About China Southern Airlines
The largest airline in The People's Republic of China for the past 28 years, China Southern Airlines - www.cs-air.com/en - connects more than 162 cities around the globe. Major business and vacation destinations served in China include: Beijing, Chengdu, Guangzhou, Guilin, Hong Kong, Kunming, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Wuhan and as well as International service, including: Amsterdam, Bangkok, Fukuoka, Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh City, Islamabad, Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Los Angeles, Manila, Melbourne, Moscow, Osaka, Paris, Penang, Phnom Penh, Seoul, Singapore, Sydney and Tokyo.
About SkyTeam
SkyTeam is the global airline alliance partnering ten members, including Aeroflot, Aeroméxico, Air France, Alitalia, China Southern Airlines, Continental Airlines, Czech Airlines, Delta Air Lines, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Korean Air and Northwest Airlines, and three Associate Airlines: Air Europa (Spain), Copa Airlines (Panama) and Kenya Airways. Through one of the world's most extensive hub networks, SkyTeam offers its 428 million annual passengers a worldwide system of 16,400 daily flights covering 841 destinations in 162 countries. www.skyteam.com.
SkyTeam Becomes First Alliance to Add Carrier from Mainland China
BEIJING, November 15, 2007 - Today China Southern Airlines officially became the 11th full member of SkyTeam, making the alliance the first to welcome a carrier from mainland China. China is one of the fastest growing aviation markets in the world and the addition of China Southern allows SkyTeam to provide its customers around the world with greater travel options to one of the world's top tourist destinations.
With the addition of China Southern Airlines, SkyTeam now serves approximately 428 million annual passengers through a worldwide system of nearly 16,400 daily flights covering 841 destinations in 162 countries. China Southern, with the most extensive airline route network in China, operates the largest and most advanced airline fleet in th country. The carrier is also widely recognized for its safety and customer service standards, and was honored with the Three-Star Safety Award by the Civil Aviation Administration of China in 2006 - the most prestigious award in safe flight operations in the Chinese aviation industry.
"We are excited to welcome China Southern Airlines, one of Asia's largest and leading carriers, into our network," said Leo van Wijk, chairman of the SkyTeam Governing Board. "This move allows us to offer our customers unparalleled access to the markets they want to reach. Offering the highest flight frequencies in China, China Southern's membership strengthens the alliance's position in serving the world's fastest growing markets."
The addition of China Southern also bolsters the alliance's global hub network with the addition of Baiyun International Airport, a well-positioned, modern hub in Guangzhou, and Beijing Capital International Airport. China Southern is the first carrier in China to operate its own terminal at Beijing Capital International Airport, China's busiest hub.
"SkyTeam is known for its unrivaled global connectivity and as a member, we can better serve our customers, particularly as the 2008 Beijing Olympics approach," said Liu Shao Yong, Chairman of China Southern Airlines, at a welcome ceremony in Beijing. "China Southern's extensive intra-Asia network serves as a powerful link in SkyTeam's robust global network," added Mr. Liu.
The welcome ceremony, which took place at Great Hall of the People in Beijing, was attended by Liu Shao Yong, Chairman of China Southern Airlines; Yang Yuanyuan, director, Civil Aviation Administration of China, General Administration; Leo van Wijk, SkyTeam Governing Board Chairman; as well as Yang Ho Cho, Chairman and CEO of Korean Air; and other SkyTeam representatives.
China Southern Airlines made significant progress and fulfilled all SkyTeam alliance membership requirements since signing a memorandum for membership in August 2004. The carrier earned recognition as a SkyTeam member airline after reaching a number of agreements with each of the alliance member carriers, including bilateral codesharing, frequent flyer and lounge agreements.
About China Southern Airlines
The largest airline in The People's Republic of China for the past 28 years, China Southern Airlines - www.cs-air.com/en - connects more than 162 cities around the globe. Major business and vacation destinations served in China include: Beijing, Chengdu, Guangzhou, Guilin, Hong Kong, Kunming, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Wuhan and as well as International service, including: Amsterdam, Bangkok, Fukuoka, Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh City, Islamabad, Kuala Lumpur, Jakarta, Los Angeles, Manila, Melbourne, Moscow, Osaka, Paris, Penang, Phnom Penh, Seoul, Singapore, Sydney and Tokyo.
About SkyTeam
SkyTeam is the global airline alliance partnering ten members, including Aeroflot, Aeroméxico, Air France, Alitalia, China Southern Airlines, Continental Airlines, Czech Airlines, Delta Air Lines, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, Korean Air and Northwest Airlines, and three Associate Airlines: Air Europa (Spain), Copa Airlines (Panama) and Kenya Airways. Through one of the world's most extensive hub networks, SkyTeam offers its 428 million annual passengers a worldwide system of 16,400 daily flights covering 841 destinations in 162 countries. www.skyteam.com.
Nov 15, 2007, 10:04 am
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Only classes A, C, D, F, W, Y
that means only business class and full economy?!!!! I have the feeling that Skyteam does not want China Southern...
or China Southern does not want Skyteam?
disappointed
that means only business class and full economy?!!!! I have the feeling that Skyteam does not want China Southern...
or China Southern does not want Skyteam?
disappointed
Nov 15, 2007, 11:00 am
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some info about the booking class by China Southern.
According to Air France, Flying Blue members can earn miles only for below booking classes.
"Only eligible when reserving in the following classes : A, C, D, F, W, Y."
http://skypearl.cs-air.com/air1_en.html
First Class(F/A)
Business Class(C/D)
Luxury Economy Class(W)
Full Fare Economy(Y/T/K/H)
Full Fare Economy(M/G/S/L/Q/U/E/V/B)
Special Economy(X/P/I/O/Z/N/R/J)
According to Air France, Flying Blue members can earn miles only for below booking classes.
"Only eligible when reserving in the following classes : A, C, D, F, W, Y."
http://skypearl.cs-air.com/air1_en.html
First Class(F/A)
Business Class(C/D)
Luxury Economy Class(W)
Full Fare Economy(Y/T/K/H)
Full Fare Economy(M/G/S/L/Q/U/E/V/B)
Special Economy(X/P/I/O/Z/N/R/J)
Nov 15, 2007, 11:20 am
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Incidentally, DL updated their earning table. Now it says classes M and G will only earn 40% - do I take it lower classes that are not specifically excluded will still get full miles?
