Its Official... Three New Skyteam Members
Sep 7, 2007, 11:34 am
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Japan - I think I've heard of an airline that flies there, called... Northwest?
Australia/NZ - Qantas is in OW, Air NZ is in *A, and we really don't want that cheap airline (Jetstar or whatever it's called) as partners. Malaysian might still make it in... but I can't help thinking existing SkyTeam members will be wanting to just fly direct themselves once they take delivery of Dreamliners.
By the way, despite Kenya's imperfections (and I'm thinking of how long they take to get baggage onto the carousel) they are one of about three airlines in Africa that anyone actually takes seriously. The others are Ethiopian, which I don't think is in any of the major alliances yet, and South African, which is in *A but is, as its name implies, way down at the south end of things - not handy for most routings to any other part of Africa.
Sep 7, 2007, 11:59 am
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CM ~= CO.
They fly the same 73G as CO. Half the carts in the galley are CO's. The service is comparable to a CO trans-con in terms of meal, though only 2 choices. Sundaes for dessert at dinner time. EUA is pretty consistent, including companion, with empties in F on the 4 flights I did in June/July.
They fly the same 73G as CO. Half the carts in the galley are CO's. The service is comparable to a CO trans-con in terms of meal, though only 2 choices. Sundaes for dessert at dinner time. EUA is pretty consistent, including companion, with empties in F on the 4 flights I did in June/July.
Sep 7, 2007, 12:14 pm
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Crz!
Diederick
Sep 8, 2007, 2:02 am
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FYI - I am a South African national, and I have no confidence in SAA. Proud to say that I have not flown them since 1992, and have no plans to fly them again - EVER!!!!
Sep 9, 2007, 8:14 am
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Australia/NZ - Qantas is in OW, Air NZ is in *A, and we really don't want that cheap airline (Jetstar or whatever it's called) as partners. Malaysian might still make it in... but I can't help thinking existing SkyTeam members will be wanting to just fly direct themselves once they take delivery of Dreamliners.
I'd even take Gulf Air, Qatar or Etihad should they decide to join alliances and fly from SIN to Australia.
Sep 17, 2007, 12:47 am
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So odd that nwa.com isn't updated yet with the new skyteam airlines. THey are listed because of previous relationships with all three, but not moved up into the skyteam area, nor are the EQM rules on for KQ...
Someone's slackin on the job!
Someone's slackin on the job!
Sep 17, 2007, 12:50 am
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co.com hasn't either!
How about Emirates esp since they already have a relationship with CO? That would be totally cool
How about Emirates esp since they already have a relationship with CO? That would be totally cool
Sep 17, 2007, 1:30 am
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Sep 17, 2007, 1:51 am
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What I'm waiting for is a REASONABLE SE Asia-to-Africa award on one of the carriers. Maybe 30-40K, something proportionate to distance and cost. When it comes to awards, SkyTeam is basically an alliance in name only, with airlines like AF and KE wanting to overcharge miles on anything that is low-competition.
Australia, NZ and Polynesia also are disconnects due to low competition. Malaysia Airlines has a lot of routes that would help, but they need to be brought into the 21st century on booking technology.
Australia, NZ and Polynesia also are disconnects due to low competition. Malaysia Airlines has a lot of routes that would help, but they need to be brought into the 21st century on booking technology.
Sep 17, 2007, 2:09 am
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Having flown NW/CO/DL/AZ/KL/AF and KQ of the skyteam groupings, I can tell you that KQ is my carrier of choice.
Frequent upgrades - fantastic service, much better in Y than some of the others in C (Us Domestic/European ).
I have not flown UX or CM, yet - but UX at end of November !!
Frequent upgrades - fantastic service, much better in Y than some of the others in C (Us Domestic/European ).
I have not flown UX or CM, yet - but UX at end of November !!
Sep 27, 2007, 5:13 pm
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No update in NWA's website yet regarding EQM's on NWA. I just called to inquire whether I'd earn EQM's on a revenue NBO-BKK flight in C (as part of a RTW Revenue Ticket), and was told that only 'NWA-Designated' flights earn EQM's.
Wouldn'tcha know it, the KQ NBO-BKK isn't a 'NWA-Designated' flight (i.e, no NWA codeshare on that flight), so it doeesn't earn EQM's, even in C class.
Doesn't sound right to me, especially not on a ST airline flight. I'll wait till the dust settles for a bit before asking NWA again...
Wouldn'tcha know it, the KQ NBO-BKK isn't a 'NWA-Designated' flight (i.e, no NWA codeshare on that flight), so it doeesn't earn EQM's, even in C class.
Doesn't sound right to me, especially not on a ST airline flight. I'll wait till the dust settles for a bit before asking NWA again...
Sep 28, 2007, 9:33 am
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Are you serious? Tarom is awful. They have some nerve calling themselves an airline! I avoid them like the plague. I've never encoutered a more aggressively rude staff - even US is pleasant compared to them. And they're ages behind the time.