Is Air Algerie joining skyteam??
Apr 3, 2007, 3:15 pm
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Is Air Algerie joining skyteam??
I was just looking the wikipedia website about Skyteam and it says Air Algerie will be joining in December of this year did anyone hear about this?(i know that info on wikipedia is not always correct that is why i am asking here)I always thought that Royal air Maroc would be joining since they are a better airline and bring more the alliance then Air Algerie.
Apr 4, 2007, 1:21 pm
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Flightbites, welcome to Flyertalk!!!
Flightbites, why this negative statement? could you precise your thought? Have you ever flown with them? Do you prefer low cost company or perhaps charter? hahaha sorry of course AF. Fine. And if by integrating ST alliance, Air Algerie or Royal Air Maroc had fares half price compared to AF airfares with assurance of getting full miles and flight status (instead of 25% miles with AF), would you modify your statement?
Also you need to keep in mind that there is 2 types of membership. The member airline and the associate airline. Depending of the membership requirements differ.
But if there is a integration as full member of one of those companies I suggest you to revise your statement. Indeed ST requirements to become full member is drastic. I propose you to read the following thread to understand that a full integration may enforce an airline to improve services and maintenance.
Thread about integration of Aeroflot in ST alliance (and offering to buy AZ)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678072
This thread may be interesting to understand the reason why flying a bad airline. The answer is budget and optimization of flights status and securisation of level platinium or gold.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678074
Jer
Flightbites, why this negative statement? could you precise your thought? Have you ever flown with them? Do you prefer low cost company or perhaps charter? hahaha sorry of course AF. Fine. And if by integrating ST alliance, Air Algerie or Royal Air Maroc had fares half price compared to AF airfares with assurance of getting full miles and flight status (instead of 25% miles with AF), would you modify your statement?
Also you need to keep in mind that there is 2 types of membership. The member airline and the associate airline. Depending of the membership requirements differ.
But if there is a integration as full member of one of those companies I suggest you to revise your statement. Indeed ST requirements to become full member is drastic. I propose you to read the following thread to understand that a full integration may enforce an airline to improve services and maintenance.
Thread about integration of Aeroflot in ST alliance (and offering to buy AZ)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678072
This thread may be interesting to understand the reason why flying a bad airline. The answer is budget and optimization of flights status and securisation of level platinium or gold.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678074
Jer
Last edited by jerybis; Apr 4, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Apr 12, 2007, 8:26 am
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Ok, I found some more out about this, and it appears Wikipedia has been changed to reflect this new information. Essentially Air Algerie wants to join SkyTeam and has codesharing with Air France already. Theres a news article in french, that I translated with Babel Fish, that gives the details.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/eco/20060530....c_skyteam.html
The State seems ready to subsidize a subsidiary company which could reorganize its network around a hub with Gardaia. For the international activity, "a strategic partner, preferably a large conveyor, would allow us to develop, in particular towards China and Canada", explains Tayeb Benouis, chairman of Air Algeria which does not hide its interest for SkyTeam alliance, even if his company were solicited by Star Alliance (grouping of airline companies carried out by German Lufthansa). And the Minister for Transport Mohamed Chaghlaoui is pleased with the recent air agreement signed with France.
Apr 12, 2007, 4:51 pm
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Ok, I found some more out about this, and it appears Wikipedia has been changed to reflect this new information. Essentially Air Algerie wants to join SkyTeam and has codesharing with Air France already. Theres a news article in french, that I translated with Babel Fish, that gives the details.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/eco/20060530....c_skyteam.html
http://www.lefigaro.fr/eco/20060530....c_skyteam.html
Apr 12, 2007, 7:52 pm
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I should have looked for a date...I did not notice it was from 2006.
I guess if its a year old and there hasnt been any other news on this, I doubt we will see Air Algerie in SkyTeam anytime soon.....
I guess if its a year old and there hasnt been any other news on this, I doubt we will see Air Algerie in SkyTeam anytime soon.....
Apr 13, 2007, 11:55 am
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Hey, there are airlines which announced over two years ago that they were joining ST, and THEY are still not in yet. Never hold your breath waiting for anything to happen with ST membership!
Apr 13, 2007, 3:49 pm
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By the way didnt China Southern agree to join ST even before the associate members were announced?
Apr 15, 2007, 5:40 am
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Apr 15, 2007, 7:59 am
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Add Royal Jordinian and Finnair to that, until a couple of years a ago Finnair was a real nice carrier but lately they going the same way as Aer Lingus no more free alcohol, no IFE in ANY of their planes, charging way to high fares.
Apr 16, 2007, 12:34 am
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It can never be as bad as the fablous Air India joining star
Add Royal Jordinian and Finnair to that, until a couple of years a ago Finnair was a real nice carrier but lately they going the same way as Aer Lingus no more free alcohol, no IFE in ANY of their planes, charging way to high fares.
Add Royal Jordinian and Finnair to that, until a couple of years a ago Finnair was a real nice carrier but lately they going the same way as Aer Lingus no more free alcohol, no IFE in ANY of their planes, charging way to high fares.
Apr 16, 2007, 6:49 am
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The suggestion that Air Algerie is in a comparable class to IB, MA, or, even more implausibly, RJ and FI beggars belief.
IB and MA might not be the best carriers in the world, but they are an acceptable second choice, on a par with AZ and OK respectively within ST. In fact, for intra-European flights, I might even prefer MA or OK to AF, BA or LH as they tend to compensate their weaker market position but superior inflight service.
Air Algerie is in an entirely different league altogether. Genuinely an airline to be avoided unless you really have to fly them. On a par with second-tier Russian, African or Central Asian airlines, IMO.
IB and MA might not be the best carriers in the world, but they are an acceptable second choice, on a par with AZ and OK respectively within ST. In fact, for intra-European flights, I might even prefer MA or OK to AF, BA or LH as they tend to compensate their weaker market position but superior inflight service.
Air Algerie is in an entirely different league altogether. Genuinely an airline to be avoided unless you really have to fly them. On a par with second-tier Russian, African or Central Asian airlines, IMO.
Apr 16, 2007, 9:26 am
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The suggestion that Air Algerie is in a comparable class to IB, MA, or, even more implausibly, RJ and FI beggars belief.
IB and MA might not be the best carriers in the world, but they are an acceptable second choice, on a par with AZ and OK respectively within ST. In fact, for intra-European flights, I might even prefer MA or OK to AF, BA or LH as they tend to compensate their weaker market position but superior inflight service.
Air Algerie is in an entirely different league altogether. Genuinely an airline to be avoided unless you really have to fly them. On a par with second-tier Russian, African or Central Asian airlines, IMO.
IB and MA might not be the best carriers in the world, but they are an acceptable second choice, on a par with AZ and OK respectively within ST. In fact, for intra-European flights, I might even prefer MA or OK to AF, BA or LH as they tend to compensate their weaker market position but superior inflight service.
Air Algerie is in an entirely different league altogether. Genuinely an airline to be avoided unless you really have to fly them. On a par with second-tier Russian, African or Central Asian airlines, IMO.
Air Algerie is clearly not joining ST for the forseeable future.
The post was a slap at Platinum 322 who used the occasion to make a gratuatious insult toward Skyteam. Platinum 332 is clearly another one of the elitist OneWorlders who seem to believe the OW propaganda that OW only invites as members and is made up of "quality airlines". Pointing out the OW members with less than a "quality product" might make him less apt to make such offensive remarks in the future.
Point being that all the alliances have 1st and 2nd (and arguably 3rd) tier members (including OW). OW might have less of the lower tiered airlines, but then they have less airlines as members.
Last edited by PMMMDL; Apr 16, 2007 at 9:31 am Reason: Clarity