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jarino May 14, 2006 11:53 am

Reaching status on Skyteam airlines (quick comparison)
 
Table of required EQM p.a. on Skyteam airlines to reach status:

Code:

                                                                  Earnings on longhaul flights
                    Silver    Gold          Gold      Platinum    F/P    C/J    Y
                  ST Elite    ST Elite  ST ElitePlus ST ElitePlus              (Fullfare)

AF/KL (France)      30000      N/A          60000          90000  300%  150%  100%
AF/KL (USA)          25000    40000          N/A          70000  300%  150%  100%
AF/KL (other)        25000      N/A          40000          70000  300%  150%  100%
AM                    N/A      31075          N/A          49720  150%  150%  100%
AZ                  25000      N/A          50000*)        N/A    200%  200%  100%
CO                  25000    50000          N/A          75000  150%  150%#) 150%
DL                  25000    50000          N/A          75000  150%  150%  150%
KE                  50000 different scheme, see post #14 below      150%  125%  100%
NW                  25000    50000          N/A          75000  150%  150%  150%
OK                  25000      N/A          50000          N/A    300%  200%  100%
SU                  25000      N/A          50000          N/A      ?    200%  150%
*) = 75000 miles for members in Italy
#) = 200% for members in Europe

On NW, EQM can be earned on the following non-skyteam members as well: Air Europa, Alaska Airlines, China Southern, Copa Airlines, Gulfstream International Airlines, Hawaiian Airlines, Horizon Air and Malev Hungarian Airlines.
On CO, EQM can be earned on some routes on non-skyteam members as well: Emirates, Eva Air, Hawaiian Airlines, Island Air, Virgin Atlantic, Copa Airlines


Code:

Executive Bonus on base miles
            Silver      Gold    Platinum
AF/KL            50%      75%      100%
AZ              25%      50%      N/A
AM              N/A        25%      50%
CO              50%      100%      125%
DL              25%      100%      100%
KE            none
NW              50%      100%      125%
OK              25%      50%      N/A
SU              25%      50%      N/A

Earning EQM without flying:
Delta, Air France and Alitalia offer credit cards in their home countries that accrue EQM.


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Elite Qualifying Segments
                                                                  Points per Segment
                  Silver    Gold        Gold        Platinum      F/P    C/J    Y      Y
                ST Elite  ST Elite  ST ElitePlus  ST ElitePlus                (Full) (Disc)
AF/KL (other)          15      N/A              30            60  1      1      1    0-1
AF/KL (USA)            15        30          N/A              60  1      1      1    0-1
AM              no EQS qualification possible
AZ              no EQS qualification possible
CO*)                    30        60          N/A              90  2      2      2    0-1
DL              no EQS qualification possible
KE              different scheme, see post #14 below
NW*)                    30        60          N/A            100  1      1      1    0-1
OK                      15      N/A              30          N/A    1      1      1      1
SU                      25      N/A              50          N/A    1      1      1      1

*) = segments on DL don't count, but segments on other non-skyteam partners (see note above) count



Please advise any changes, corrections and omissions, I'll edit appropriately.

WearyBizTrvlr May 14, 2006 3:47 pm

I thought Europe-based CO members got 100% bonus for C instead of 50%. Memory's a bit hazy today.

cfischer May 14, 2006 7:25 pm

very useful, thanks! 50k for Plat on AM :eek:

ContinentalFan May 14, 2006 9:43 pm

Thanks for this tabulation; I have wondered why Continental doesn't treat all codeshare miles the same.

iseo May 15, 2006 3:16 am

AZ FFs only earn 25% more miles on elite status and 50% more miles on Elite plus status. :td:

nldogbert May 15, 2006 5:07 am


Originally Posted by iseo
AZ FFs only earn 25% more miles on elite status and 50% more miles on Elite plus status. :td:


Same with OK Plus.

GUWonder May 15, 2006 6:22 am


Originally Posted by iseo
AZ FFs only earn 25% more miles on elite status and 50% more miles on Elite plus status. :td:

I am curious about the following. Is AZ's 50% ElitePlus bonus applicable to the COS-related bonus miles too or not?

Even without that,the COS bonus AZ gives for business cabin fares means that a DL ElitePlus earns no more than an AZ ElitePlus flying the same flights.

Gargoyle May 15, 2006 8:37 am

Great list, thanks.

I believe AZ Freccia Alata (elite+) is 75k miles for Italian residents. It is 50k, as you displayed, for non residents.

Perhaps an additional section would be good to add- show the ways besides butt-in-seat miles to earn EQM on each airline. For example, with DL, if you spend $25k on a Delta Amex card you get 10K status miles. With AZ, any euro spent on purchasing AZ tix with an AZ Amex card earns 2x or 3x (depending on the level of Amex card) EQM's.

GVA May 15, 2006 11:38 am

You might also want to correct the "AF/KL (US/CDN)". Canadian FB Gold members are SkyTeam Elite Plus.

jarino May 15, 2006 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
I thought Europe-based CO members got 100% bonus for C instead of 50%. Memory's a bit hazy today.

I corrected this.


Originally Posted by GUWonder
I am curious about the following. Is AZ's 50% ElitePlus bonus applicable to the COS-related bonus miles too or not?

Even without that,the COS bonus AZ gives for business cabin fares means that a DL ElitePlus earns no more than an AZ ElitePlus flying the same flights.

I added a table regarding Executive Bonus. All of them (including AZ) are applicable only to the base mileage.


Originally Posted by Gargoyle

I believe AZ Freccia Alata (elite+) is 75k miles for Italian residents. It is 50k, as you displayed, for non residents.

I added a note.


Originally Posted by Gargoyle
Perhaps an additional section would be good to add- show the ways besides butt-in-seat miles to earn EQM on each airline. For example, with DL, if you spend $25k on a Delta Amex card you get 10K status miles. With AZ, any euro spent on purchasing AZ tix with an AZ Amex card earns 2x or 3x (depending on the level of Amex card) EQM's.

Usually these credit cards are only available to residents of the airlines' home country who are really living there with a good credit record. Therefore I did not mention these programs so far.


Originally Posted by GVA
You might also want to correct the "AF/KL (US/CDN)". Canadian FB Gold members are SkyTeam Elite Plus.

I corrected this.

Gargoyle May 16, 2006 12:44 am


Originally Posted by jarino
Usually these credit cards are only available to residents of the airlines' home country who are really living there with a good credit record. Therefore I did not mention these programs so far.

Yes, generally that's the case. One reason for adding it is that we get these threads every two weeks asking "how can I earn EQM's without flying", so this could head off a few of those recurrent threads. :)

BTW, I'd suspect that there are a good number of us here who have established addresses and credit cards in more than one country.

Gnopps May 16, 2006 1:25 am

Great comparison, thanks! Why don't you add in segments as well?

mayhem May 19, 2006 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by Gnopps
Great comparison, thanks! Why don't you add in segments as well?

second that,

for me for instance it's a decisive factor as i don't fly much (not more than 10-12 segments a year) but a lot of miles (just enough to reach silver with DL this year), so it wouldn't be very interesting to join KLM/AF because of that.

nice table though ^ great to see it all sorted out

kiwanryu May 19, 2006 11:36 pm

KE has very unique structures against other Skyteam carriers.

Once members reach either 500K or 1000K miles,
Morning Calm members can enjoy lifetime previleges without maintaining requirements. :)

On the other hand, KE does not offer any elite bonus mileages. :mad:


1.Morning Calm (Skyteam Elite)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------1. Obtaining eligibility for the Morning Calm Club membership
After gaining SKYPASS membership, if you meet any one of the following conditions you will be eligible for Morning Calm Club membership, valid for two years.
» Earned more than 50,000 miles on Korean Air flights
» Traveled with Korean Air flights more than forty times*
» Earned a total of 50,000 miles (more than 30,000 miles on Korean Air flights and the rest of the miles on Korean Air partners)

2. Maintaining Morning Calm Club membership
Morning Calm Club membership is valid for two years. During those two years if you meet any one of the following conditions, your membership will be automatically renewed for a further two years.
» Earned more than 30,000 miles on Korean Air flights while the two-year membership is valid
» Traveled with Korean Air flights more than twenty times* while the two-year membership is valid
While the two-year membership is valid, if you have earned more than 30,000 miles on Korean Air and partners (on condition that you have earned more than 20,000 miles on Korean Air flights or traveled with Korean Air flights more than fifteen times*), your Morning Calm Club membership will also be automatically renewed for a further two years.
(This condition temporary applies to the members who have Morning Calm Club membership expiring between March 2006 and December 2008.)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


2.Morning Calm Premium (Skyteam Elite Plus)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Morning Calm Premium Club Qualification
Members who have accumulated between 500,000 and 999,999 miles in their SKYPASS accounts by flying on Korean Air or our SkyTeam airline partners (AeroMexico, Air France, Alitalia, Continental Airlines, Czech Airlines, Delta Airlines, KLM Royal Dutch Airlines and Northwest Airlines) qualify for Morning Calm Premium Club membership.
(Miles earned from non-airline partners or from promotional offers are not counted toward Morning Calm Premium Club mileage qualifications


3.Million Miler (Skyteam Elite Plus)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Million Miler Club Qualification
Members who have accumulated more than 1,000,000 miles in their SKYPASS accounts by flying on Korean Air or our SkyTeam airline partners become lifetime members of our exclusive Million Miler Club.
(Miles earned from non-airline partners or from promotional offers are not counted toward Million Miler Club mileage qualifications)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

slippahs May 19, 2006 11:38 pm

This is a great list--thanks for compiling this. Now if only NW/CO would recognize Golds as Skyteam Elite+, I'd be set. :)


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