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NickW Aug 3, 2004 5:30 am
Originally Posted by FTraveler
In addition, SkyTeam members have rules specific to their individual programs which permit their own elites access to member-operated lounges which are different from SkyTeam rules. For example, a DL PM can access DL CRCs on a purely U.S. domestic itinerary - access is granted based on comp membership in the CRC program and not SkyTeam Elite Plus status.
Similarly, Alitalia Club Ulisse members (ST Elite) like me get access to Alitalia lounges. I think of the SkyTeam benefits as the core benefits that I expect anywhere in the alliance, and then the individual benefits that each carrier attaches to its own status as something entirely separate.

I mean, DL FO and GM are both ST Elite, even though they are different tiers in SM.

XCountryFlyer Aug 18, 2004 2:35 pm
Thanks for the great info.

Dovster Aug 27, 2004 1:28 am
Originally Posted by NickW
Similarly, Alitalia Club Ulisse members (ST Elite) like me get access to Alitalia lounges. I think of the SkyTeam benefits as the core benefits that I expect anywhere in the alliance, and then the individual benefits that each carrier attaches to its own status as something entirely separate.

I mean, DL FO and GM are both ST Elite, even though they are different tiers in SM.
Don't you get access only to Ulisse Clubs? It is my understanding that AZ has other clubs for Elite Plus members.

Incidentally, if you ever fly out of TLV on AZ or AF, be certain to ask for your VIP Lounge pass when checking in. It is given to Ulisse, AF Bleu, and Delta Gold Medallion members.

Boofer Sep 2, 2004 9:02 pm
Originally Posted by graraps
Well, I have to admit that it was not more than just a thought. I guess you can find some international flights departing very late in the evening (2200 or later). You show said ticket to lounge attendants. You clearly have a "same-day international ticket", and tell them you are planning to check in shortly before the flight (perhaps you've got to do some shopping and you want to put extra stuff into checked baggage). I can't see how they can possibly refuse entry!
Even easier - why not buy a CRC membership and get in whenever you want? Or buy a Priority Pass membership and get into most airline's lounges and many others all over the world?

graraps Sep 4, 2004 4:47 pm
Originally Posted by Boofer
Even easier - why not buy a CRC membership and get in whenever you want? Or buy a Priority Pass membership and get into most airline's lounges and many others all over the world?
AFAIK, a CRC membership doesn't get you in non-DL Skyteam lounges so it clearly is of limited benefit for someone who occasionally flies within the US. OTOH, priority pass is a lot more useful BUT a top-tier FF shouldn't have to shell out even more money just to get into a bloody lounge!!!

NickW Sep 5, 2004 8:26 am
Originally Posted by Dovster
Don't you get access only to Ulisse Clubs? It is my understanding that AZ has other clubs for Elite Plus members.
They seem mostly to be in the process of abolishing that distinction. In fact, even where the distinction does exist, I think that it's only Freccia Alata members that can use the facilities - not other ST elites. It might only be Fiumicino that has a separate FA lounge now. There are certainly no differentiated facilities airside at MXP.


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