Aeroflot to join Skyteam by next year
Mar 6, 2002, 11:21 pm
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Aeroflot to join Skyteam by next year
At least according to the web site of the Russian outfit:
"At Aeroflot, our commitment is to provide world-class service and safety. Aeroflot pilots, technicians and other personnel undergo rigorous training. For the last three years Aeroflot flight safety level has been outstanding - 99.90%- 99.98% [ The other 0.09%-0.02% will appreciate- NDLR ] (well within ICAO standards). Aeroflot boasts a fleet of more than 100 planes, including new Boeing aircrafts. In 2000 alone, the company transported 5,100,900 passengers and 107,000 tons of cargo and mail.
Already a reputable partner of many global air carriers, Aeroflot is preparing to join the Sky Team global alliance, formed by Air France, Delta Airlines, Korean Air and Air Mexico by 2003."
http://www.aeroflot.com/about/
Finally, some consistency in customer service!
There should be no issue merging SU and AF customer service handbooks, both pages.
DL and SU paint jobs are also remarkably similar, it's like a miracle how it works out
...I forgot. SU: Before joining the Team, make sure you make pals with Air Mexico brass. Whomever they are
If those Russians didn't exist, wouldn't we have to invent them?
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"At Aeroflot, our commitment is to provide world-class service and safety. Aeroflot pilots, technicians and other personnel undergo rigorous training. For the last three years Aeroflot flight safety level has been outstanding - 99.90%- 99.98% [ The other 0.09%-0.02% will appreciate- NDLR ] (well within ICAO standards). Aeroflot boasts a fleet of more than 100 planes, including new Boeing aircrafts. In 2000 alone, the company transported 5,100,900 passengers and 107,000 tons of cargo and mail.
Already a reputable partner of many global air carriers, Aeroflot is preparing to join the Sky Team global alliance, formed by Air France, Delta Airlines, Korean Air and Air Mexico by 2003."
http://www.aeroflot.com/about/
Finally, some consistency in customer service!
There should be no issue merging SU and AF customer service handbooks, both pages.DL and SU paint jobs are also remarkably similar, it's like a miracle how it works out
...I forgot. SU: Before joining the Team, make sure you make pals with Air Mexico brass. Whomever they are
If those Russians didn't exist, wouldn't we have to invent them?
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Mar 7, 2002, 2:10 pm
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At the last AGM held on September 14th, AF CEO Jean-Cyril Spinetta answered a question about Aeroflot: he stated that although * Alliance was in competition with Skyteam, Skyteam has a headstart, as there is already a provisional agreement by Skyteam partners. He stressed that having a hub in Moscow would be an important asset for all Skyteam partners.
Full AGM report (in French) http://www.airfrance-finance.com/upl...%20complet.pdf
Full AGM report (in French) http://www.airfrance-finance.com/upl...%20complet.pdf
Mar 8, 2002, 11:06 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Droneklax:
At least according to the web site of the Russian outfit:
Already a reputable partner of many global air carriers, Aeroflot is preparing to join the Sky Team global alliance, formed by Air France, Delta Airlines, Korean Air and Aeromexico by 2003."
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At least according to the web site of the Russian outfit:
Already a reputable partner of many global air carriers, Aeroflot is preparing to join the Sky Team global alliance, formed by Air France, Delta Airlines, Korean Air and Aeromexico by 2003."
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OneWorld had Canadian and Star had Ansett...
At least Aeroflot makes profits... and keeps its Russian aircraft within the CIS (to comply with Stage 3 requirements).
They have no 727s, no 737-200s, no DC9s, etc..
Mar 8, 2002, 4:33 pm
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I am not sure whether this would actually be such a smart move..... 
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Mar 9, 2002, 3:49 pm
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Well, from a purely strategic viewpoint, it would not be good for Skyteam if it lost the Russian market to any of the other alliances. This market is far larger and offers greater potential for development than the Afghan and Iraqi markets.
If Skyteam will be criticized anyway either for winning or for losing, I'd rather have it for winning.
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If Skyteam will be criticized anyway either for winning or for losing, I'd rather have it for winning.
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Mar 14, 2002, 2:20 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Sylvest941:
They have no 727s, no 737-200s, no DC9s, etc.
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They have no 727s, no 737-200s, no DC9s, etc.
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Mar 14, 2002, 11:14 pm
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Wow.
I'm a bit conflicted on this. I hope SU will honor retroactive points from all of those internal Soviet flights from long ago. And I just know that the Pyongyang-SVO-Berlin/Schoenefeld Ilyushin will be a popular route with Skyteamers.
But there could be an upside. Lounge access at Domodedevo. One-connection codeshares (at Sheremetevo) for New Yorkers to get to, say, Hanoi, Damascus, and Maputo.
Does this mean someone will finally clean the floors and that dated ceiling at SVO?
I'm a bit conflicted on this. I hope SU will honor retroactive points from all of those internal Soviet flights from long ago. And I just know that the Pyongyang-SVO-Berlin/Schoenefeld Ilyushin will be a popular route with Skyteamers.
But there could be an upside. Lounge access at Domodedevo. One-connection codeshares (at Sheremetevo) for New Yorkers to get to, say, Hanoi, Damascus, and Maputo.
Does this mean someone will finally clean the floors and that dated ceiling at SVO?
Mar 15, 2002, 2:32 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ConcordeBoy:
Of course not... only TU154s which crash every 3 months or so. Would feel SOOOO much better on those.
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Of course not... only TU154s which crash every 3 months or so. Would feel SOOOO much better on those.
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Mar 15, 2002, 2:40 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by fastflyer:
Wow.
I'm a bit conflicted on this. I hope SU will honor retroactive points from all of those internal Soviet flights from long ago. And I just know that the Pyongyang-SVO-Berlin/Schoenefeld Ilyushin will be a popular route with Skyteamers.
But there could be an upside. Lounge access at Domodedevo. One-connection codeshares (at Sheremetevo) for New Yorkers to get to, say, Hanoi, Damascus, and Maputo.
Does this mean someone will finally clean the floors and that dated ceiling at SVO?</font>
Wow.
I'm a bit conflicted on this. I hope SU will honor retroactive points from all of those internal Soviet flights from long ago. And I just know that the Pyongyang-SVO-Berlin/Schoenefeld Ilyushin will be a popular route with Skyteamers.
But there could be an upside. Lounge access at Domodedevo. One-connection codeshares (at Sheremetevo) for New Yorkers to get to, say, Hanoi, Damascus, and Maputo.
Does this mean someone will finally clean the floors and that dated ceiling at SVO?</font>
You know what? There are travellers outside the USA.... No kidding...
I will tell you a secret, when New Yorkers can make money in Hanoi or Damascus, they do!
Mar 15, 2002, 10:17 am
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I wonder if the DoJ/FTC would have trouble with granting antitrust immunity. This would give SkyTeam a monopoly on the non-stop JFK-SVO market. I recall that CO had rumors about an EWR-SVO routing in early 1998 (so CO might have route authority), but if allowed this would be an extremely lucrative market for SKyTeam, especially if they could offer smooth onward connections (if anything through SVO can be considered smooth). The DL JFK-SVO flight has been packed every time I've flown it.