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Old Feb 10, 2020, 12:30 pm
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what fifth freedom flights do SkyTeam airlines offer?

I was just reading about the impending conclusion of a regular LATAM (not yet SkyTeam) 777 flight between Frankfurt and Madrid and it got me thinking: what Fifth Freedom flights do any SkyTeam airlines currently offer that can be sold & flown as their own standalone segments?

Before Delta got rid of its NRT hub, they used to offer all kinds of flights. Looking at Google, I also think there may be KLM flights between DPS & SIN and TPE & MNL.
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Old Feb 11, 2020, 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by DJMeatBall
Before Delta got rid of its NRT hub, they used to offer all kinds of flights. Looking at Google, I also think there may be KLM flights between DPS & SIN and TPE & MNL.
add the KL-flights KUL-CGK and EZE-SCL to the list.
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KQ got quite a lot of them in Africa as well as BKK-CAN
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AF in Africa as well. But no more outside Africa unfortunately
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AF in Africa as well. But no more outside Africa unfortunately
Doesn't AF fly LAX<->PPT (Tahiti) ?
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Originally Posted by DJMeatBall
Doesn't AF fly LAX<->PPT (Tahiti) ?
Not a 5th freedom flight. It's a US to a French territory flight.
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AF in Africa as well. But no more outside Africa unfortunately
I stand corrected. The AF intra-Carribean network has PAP-MIA !
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CI has BNE-AKL (not sure if they still have the seasonal SYD-CHC).
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CI has BNE-AKL (not sure if they still have the seasonal SYD-CHC).
The last CI flight CHC MEL was March 2018. Used to operate in the [southern] summer. A flight I often used to take
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
AF in Africa as well. But no more outside Africa unfortunately
Originally Posted by DJMeatBall
what Fifth Freedom flights do any SkyTeam airlines currently offer that can be sold & flown as their own standalone segments?
Does AF actually allow its PAX to fly those as standalone? I don't think so, but may be wrong. I don't think you can book BKO-ABJ or ACC-OUA for instance
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Does AF actually allow its PAX to fly those as standalone? I don't think so, but may be wrong. I don't think you can book BKO-ABJ or ACC-OUA for instance
not sure indeed.
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This list is regularly updated: http://www.australianfrequentflyer.c...reedom-routes/

Here are the Skyteam flights. Kenya Airways is the boss!

It doesn't necessarily mean the list is entirely correct; the KLM list looks incomplete in that TPE-MNL isn't listed (though they may not currently be allowed to carry local traffic on that sector due to Philippine government restrictions)

Some flights are seasonal and may not currently be operating.

Air Europa
Asuncion (ASU) - Iguazu Falls (IGR)
Asuncion (ASU) - Cordoba (COR)

Air France
Miami (MIA) - Port-au-Prince (PAP)
Freetown (FNA) - Conakry (CKY) (one way only)
Los Angeles (LAX) - Papeete (PPT)*
Guadeloupe (PTP) - Port-au-Prince (PAP) *

*not 5th freedom

Alitalia
Tel Aviv (TLV) - Athens (ATH)

China Airlines
Brisbane (BNE) - Auckland (AKL)
Hong Kong (HKG) - Jakarta (CGK)
Singapore (SIN) - Surabaya (SUB) (Ends 29/03/20)


Czech Airlines
Hamburg (HAM) - Gothenburg (GOT)
Copenhagen (CPH) - Reykjavik (KEF)

Delta
Manila (MNL) - Tokyo (NRT) (Ends 28/03/20)
Manila (MNL) - Seoul (ICN) (Starts 29/03/20)

Kenya Airways
Bangkok (BKK) - Guangzhou (CAN)
Dakar (DSS) - Abidjan (ABJ)
Freetown (FNA) - Accra (ACC)
Freetown (FNA) - Monrovia (ROB)
Entebbe (EBB) - Bangui (BGF)
Monrovia (ROB) - Accra (ACC)
Addis Ababa (ADD) - Djibouti (JIB)
Cape Town (CPT) - Livingstone (LVI)
Cape Town (CPT) - Victoria Falls (VFA)
Bamako (BKO) - Dakar (DSS)
Harare (HRE) - Lusaka (LUN)
Kinshasa (FBM) - Ndola (NLA)
Lilongwe (LLW) - Nampula (APL)

KLM
Bahrain (BAH) - Kuwait (KWI
Dammam (DMM) - Muscat (MCT)
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) - Jakarta (CGK)
Singapore (SIN - Denpasar (DPS)
Buenos Aires (EZE) - Santiago (SCL)

Taipei (TPE) - Manila (MNL) - 5th freedom rights may currently be suspended

Korean Air
Colombo (CMB) - Male (MLE)
Tokyo (NRT) - Honolulu (HNL)
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