China Southern departs from Skyteam 2019/01/01
Nov 15, 2018, 1:44 am
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China Southern departs from Skyteam 2019/01/01
China Southern to leave Skyteam from 2019/01/01 and will continue to work with AA. 2019 will be the interim time for CZ to clear up all necessities with Skyteam.As of current there are no additional information on where CZ is heading.
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Nov 15, 2018, 2:02 am
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The rumor on Weibo (China's twitter) is that CZ is heading to OW. A more drastic speculation there is that CX will join *A, but I'm not positive.
Nov 15, 2018, 3:08 am
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Don't automatically assume that it will, or that it has to, join another alliance.
Alliance membership can be more trouble/cost than it is worth; for many airlines, it makes sense to focus only on those partners that make sense for you individually, rather than the motley crew cobbled together by any such alliance.
Though of course with AA investing, it could happen that oneworld membership is on the cards.
Strange, though, that subsidiary Xiamen is apparently staying where it is.
Alliance membership can be more trouble/cost than it is worth; for many airlines, it makes sense to focus only on those partners that make sense for you individually, rather than the motley crew cobbled together by any such alliance.
Though of course with AA investing, it could happen that oneworld membership is on the cards.
Strange, though, that subsidiary Xiamen is apparently staying where it is.
Originally Posted by Reuters
SHANGHAI/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - China Southern Airlines (600029.SS) (1055.HK) said it will leave the SkyTeam airline alliance on Jan. 1 next year to meet the needs of the company’s own development strategy.
SkyTeam said it would work with China Southern to ensure a seamless transition for all customers and partners. That process will run throughout 2019 and will complete by the year-end.
Xiamen Airlines Co Ltd, a subsidiary of China Southern that is also a Skyteam member, has no plans to quit the alliance, Xiamen spokesman Qiu Dapeng said.
SkyTeam said it would work with China Southern to ensure a seamless transition for all customers and partners. That process will run throughout 2019 and will complete by the year-end.
Xiamen Airlines Co Ltd, a subsidiary of China Southern that is also a Skyteam member, has no plans to quit the alliance, Xiamen spokesman Qiu Dapeng said.
Nov 15, 2018, 3:40 am
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Does anyone have any guess as to when FlyingBlue earnings may cease, after exiting SkyTeam? I am looking at a flight on CZ in early January 2019, and getting Flying Blue credit is highly desirable.
Nothing yet on the AF or DL websites.
Nothing yet on the AF or DL websites.
Nov 15, 2018, 3:56 am
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Not certain at all, but you probably shouldn't expect the miles after the cutoff date :/
The only way you could get them is if somehow CZ keeps a parthership with AF-KL once out of Skyteam - not impossible, but far from certain.
The only way you could get them is if somehow CZ keeps a parthership with AF-KL once out of Skyteam - not impossible, but far from certain.
Nov 15, 2018, 3:57 am
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If CZ leaves on 2019/1/1, that means the last day to credit your flight to a Skyteam partner would be 2018/12/31 unless an alternative arrangement is made.
Nov 15, 2018, 5:03 am
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I was hoping to be able to rely on the vague language about 2019 transitional arrangements. It’s probably best to view it like Brexit ( CZexit?): expect the worst, and have some possibility for upside.
Nov 15, 2018, 6:22 am
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Nov 15, 2018, 8:20 am
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China Southern will not leave Skyteam until late 2019 at the earliest (see above).
Nov 15, 2018, 8:55 am
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Flying Blue miles earned via the "marketed and operated by a Syteam member" route requires exactly that - that the operator and marketer is a Skyteam member at the time the flight is taken.
China Southern will not leave Skyteam until late 2019 at the earliest (see above).
China Southern will not leave Skyteam until late 2019 at the earliest (see above).
Nov 15, 2018, 12:54 pm
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Don't automatically assume that it will, or that it has to, join another alliance.
Alliance membership can be more trouble/cost than it is worth; for many airlines, it makes sense to focus only on those partners that make sense for you individually, rather than the motley crew cobbled together by any such alliance.
Though of course with AA investing, it could happen that oneworld membership is on the cards.
Strange, though, that subsidiary Xiamen is apparently staying where it is.
Alliance membership can be more trouble/cost than it is worth; for many airlines, it makes sense to focus only on those partners that make sense for you individually, rather than the motley crew cobbled together by any such alliance.
Though of course with AA investing, it could happen that oneworld membership is on the cards.
Strange, though, that subsidiary Xiamen is apparently staying where it is.
Nov 15, 2018, 1:15 pm
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It depends on how to interpret the following wording in the announcement, and I paraphrase: "CZ will not renew the contract with Skyteam after 1/1/2019". It highly depends on when the current contract expires, I guess? One could possibly push it to extremes and speculate that 1/1/2019 is when the current contract ends? But probably it won't come with such a short notice.
Nov 15, 2018, 4:23 pm
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It also begs the question how the greater China connection agreement between the 4 local Skyteam airlines (MU,CI,CZ and Xiamen) will go as it was an agreement on top of the normal skyteam benefits and only started about 4 years ago.