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nwa330 Sep 21, 2012 9:27 pm

Find Delta Partners Award Availability
 
I'm trying to find a source where I can search partners award availability using my Delta points. Is there any other way of searching other then calling Delta over and over trying to find a competent agent? I get so frustrated that I can't see Aeromexico or Korean Air, China Southern seats.

Supersonic Swinger Sep 22, 2012 1:34 am

This tool (put together by sbm12) searches Aeroflot, China Southern, Czech Airlines, Korean Air, Shanghai Airlines (part of China Eastern), Tarom and Vietnam Airlines:

http://www.wandr.me/Award-Search.aspx/

mtkeller Sep 22, 2012 6:50 am


Originally Posted by Supersonic Swinger (Post 19362404)
This tool (put together by sbm12) searches Aeroflot, China Southern, Czech Airlines, Korean Air, Shanghai Airlines (part of China Eastern), Tarom and Vietnam Airlines:

http://www.wandr.me/Award-Search.aspx/

It can only see KE inventory on Korea-Japan routes (like every other tool), so it's pretty worthless for KE.

AM can be found on DL.dumb now. Many of the partners can be searched using the FlyingBlue engine on airfrance.us. "Classic" awards on flights other than AF/KL should be bookable with SkyMiles. Right now, there's something weird going on with DL and AF/KL when it comes to award tickets, so hard to tell what you might be able to book in that direction.

nwa330 Sep 22, 2012 9:10 am

I check KLM all the time but Delta always tells me no availability when I call. A few agents have said that just because KLM shows it doesn't mean we will have it.

KVS Sep 22, 2012 2:01 pm


Originally Posted by nwa330 (Post 19361652)
I'm trying to find a source where I can search partners award availability using my Delta points. Is there any other way of searching other then calling Delta over and over trying to find a competent agent? I get so frustrated that I can't see Aeromexico or Korean Air, China Southern seats.

You may find the following thread in the DL SM Forum helpful:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...er-thread.html

KVS Sep 22, 2012 2:02 pm


Originally Posted by nwa330 (Post 19363762)
I check KLM all the time but Delta always tells me no availability when I call. A few agents have said that just because KLM shows it doesn't mean we will have it.

Is there a particular flight/date you are interested in?

nwa330 Sep 22, 2012 3:18 pm

I was thinking of renewing my KVS. Would KVS work for what I'm looking to do?

KVS Sep 22, 2012 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by nwa330 (Post 19365577)
I was thinking of renewing my KVS. Would KVS work for what I'm looking to do?

KVS Tool fully supports Award Availability on all SkyTeam airlines (except for KE, which no other Tool or service supports anyway), as well as most of DL SM non-alliance partners:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AwardUpgradeClasses_SkyTeam

nwa330 Sep 22, 2012 7:59 pm

So, let say I find an award space on Aero Mexico, will that say its available using my delta miles? When I find discounted award seats on KLM, Delta never seems to be able to find the space.

nwa330 Sep 22, 2012 8:10 pm

I just purchased the KVS again. I guess I'll play around and see what happens.

pete4212 Sep 22, 2012 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by nwa330 (Post 19365577)
I was thinking of renewing my KVS. Would KVS work for what I'm looking to do?

There are free options as well that screen scrape from the same AirFrance award website that KVS does:

- http://AwardNexus.com
- http://www.awardtravelr.com

Hawaiino Sep 26, 2012 8:10 pm

I just did this, HNL to BKK. Only looking for upgrade to Business though.
I'm a Delta Plat and I could not get any seats through Japan, end of Oct is the end of their vacation season. I'm an Expertflyer subscriber so I went online to check all this. Used the Skyteam search and saw lots of KE, did a specific search of appropriate flights and saw lots of M/B/Y/Z buckets. KE shows max of 4.
Picked dates that had availability, then called Delta with those specific dates. They struck out on DL flights. I suggested KE after we discussed the whole Japan vacation thing. She immediately said no availability. I kept talking to her, knowing they were there. My plan B was to hang up and try another agent later.
But....she "found" the seats, and, this is the ICE CREAM, she booked the "B" seats at a reasonable fare, less than my last DL. 25,000 miles each way upgrade fee, and can't confirm specific seats till within 30 days of departure.

My only concern is what my Medallion qualification scenario is. I was assured by the agent that I will earn "100 %". Well with Delta I do better than that, so we shall see.

DavidAL Dec 7, 2012 11:41 pm

I was looking at AMS-EBB availability in 2/13. KVS shows that on KQ CS=4, which I think means there should be 4 Biz seats, and it shows YX=0. However, when I call to have them book the flight via long sell, they tell me that there's no biz seats available, but there are Y seats available. Am I reading KVS wrong for KQ?

KVS Dec 8, 2012 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by DavidAL (Post 19817323)
I was looking at AMS-EBB availability in 2/13. KVS shows that on KQ CS=4, which I think means there should be 4 Biz seats, and it shows YX=0. However, when I call to have them book the flight via long sell, they tell me that there's no biz seats available, but there are Y seats available. Am I reading KVS wrong for KQ?

Those KQ C Award Seats are, indeed, available.

For tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.1/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
Code:

AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
EBB  Entebbe UG [HUEN]
WED  13 Feb 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL        535    AMS  10:05    EBB  22:20              CX0  YS9
KL        1227    AMS  07:10    CDG  08:35              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ    113    CDG  11:00    NBO  21:30
 -> KQ    416    NBO  22:30    EBB  23:45
KL        1001    AMS  07:15    LHR  07:40              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    101    LHR  19:00    NBO  06:30 +1
 -> KQ    410    NBO  07:55 +1  EBB  09:10 +1
KL        1229    AMS  08:00    CDG  09:25              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ    113    CDG  11:00    NBO  21:30
 -> KQ    416    NBO  22:30    EBB  23:45
KL        1007    AMS  08:35    LHR  09:00              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    101    LHR  19:00    NBO  06:30 +1
 -> KQ    410    NBO  07:55 +1  EBB  09:10 +1
KL        1009    AMS  10:15    LHR  10:45              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    101    LHR  19:00    NBO  06:30 +1
 -> KQ    410    NBO  07:55 +1  EBB  09:10 +1
KL        565    AMS  10:20    NBO  20:25              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ    416    NBO  22:30    EBB  23:45
KL        565    AMS  10:20    NBO  20:25              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    410    NBO  07:55 +1  EBB  09:10 +1
KL        1019    AMS  13:55    LHR  14:25              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    101    LHR  19:00    NBO  06:30 +1
 -> KQ    410    NBO  07:55 +1  EBB  09:10 +1
KL        1021    AMS  15:40    LHR  16:05              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    101    LHR  19:00    NBO  06:30 +1
 -> KQ    410    NBO  07:55 +1  EBB  09:10 +1
KQ        117    AMS  20:40    NBO  07:00 +1          CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    410    NBO  07:55 +1  EBB  09:10 +1
KQ        117    AMS  20:40    NBO  07:00 +1          CS4  YX0
 -> KQ    414    NBO  17:50 +1  EBB  19:05 +1


DavidAL Dec 10, 2012 2:32 pm

I'm now looking at 2/18, but it also shows CS4, but they can't book it for a Biz award for me. I've called back twice and talked to 2 different reps, both of with are insistent that there's Y seats available from AMS-NBO on #117, but no Biz seats available. They say that O=0, so there's no award availability. Am I missing something here?

Edit to add: Now they said that they show Q=4, but they have no clue what Q is, and they can't book me into it. They still maintain that O=0, therefore I can't book a Biz award seat on the flight.


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