Skyteam Expansion
Jun 18, 2011, 1:37 am
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Jun 18, 2011, 11:24 am
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Jun 19, 2011, 7:25 am
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FYI, there is a long standing and very comprehensive thread on the issue. Why not follow the discussion there?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/skyte...am-member.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/skyte...am-member.html
Jun 22, 2011, 5:01 pm
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Jun 23, 2011, 3:59 am
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However, if you can ticket it through KL with the MH code on the flight in question, you will earn RDM but not MQM as long as MH remains a SkyMiles partner.
Jun 23, 2011, 5:28 am
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China Eastern-Shanghai Airlines official entry date into ST was 6/21 and its flights are already showing as status earning (MQM) on Delta Airline Partners and Air France (Flying Blue). If everything follows convention and schedule is on time, CI should experience the same transition come September.
Jun 23, 2011, 6:59 pm
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Another question.
Delta.com says
No accrual for Y or A (Premium Economy)?
have fare buckets changed since June 1?
Prior to travel effective June 1, 2011:
S, V – eligible for 100% base accrual
D, Y, U, G, A – ineligible class for accrual
S, V – eligible for 100% base accrual
D, Y, U, G, A – ineligible class for accrual
have fare buckets changed since June 1?
Jun 24, 2011, 2:17 am
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Jun 24, 2011, 5:58 am
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From a DL point of view, before the alignement, S and V were excluded and D Y U G and A had not the same earning rate. Y was only 100% MQM.
It was discussed in the FB forum:
KLM/DELTA/Air France To align booking classes as per 2011
Jun 24, 2011, 4:16 pm
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Jun 29, 2011, 8:46 pm
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Wrong, wrong, wrong in terms of booking the KL-coded flight. From DL.dumb: "Unless otherwise noted, mileage credit is applicable to SkyTeam-marketed flights operated by any SkyTeam member airline, but is not applicable to SkyTeam-marketed flights operated by any other airline." Since MH is not in ST, a KL-coded, MH-operated flight will earn nada.
However, if you can ticket it through KL with the MH code on the flight in question, you will earn RDM but not MQM as long as MH remains a SkyMiles partner.
However, if you can ticket it through KL with the MH code on the flight in question, you will earn RDM but not MQM as long as MH remains a SkyMiles partner.
I just took MH 20 KUL-CDG and then on to PIT on a Delta ticket and got skymiles for all. However, the MH miles were less and no MQM's.
Jun 30, 2011, 3:25 am
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The rule is really simple: If the flight number belongs to a SkyTeam carrier and the airplane belongs to a SkyTeam carrier, you get miles based on the flight number you've got booked and the fare class. If the flight number belongs to a SkyTeam carrier and the airplane belongs to a non-SkyTeam carrier (SkyMiles partner or not), you don't get anything.