The road to COVID-19 reopen starts
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But one might look to this as ‘No circuit breaker circuit breaker, v2’. Second time in 2 months - >2000 people got quarantine orders.
That ‘roadmap for opening’, including ‘living with virus’ and stopping reporting case numbers is probably history too.
That ‘roadmap for opening’, including ‘living with virus’ and stopping reporting case numbers is probably history too.
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now transit period.
#4
The big question though is what happens next? Or if they are even going to allow entry for foreigners. Especially when their direct neighbouring countries are experiencing the largest outbreaks ever.
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if Singaporeans return from oversea without quarantine, it should apply to foreigners coming to Singapore as long as they are vaccinated the same as Singaporeans, that means, Pfizer and Moderna only and proper documentation.
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If they are only allowing people in with Pfizer/Moderna vaccines, it creates a problem since the vast majority in Indonesia/Malaysia/Thailand/India and nearly all of China is vaccinated with something else. And the foreign travellers from these 4 regions definitely make up more than 60% of all travellers into Singapore.
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If they are only allowing people in with Pfizer/Moderna vaccines, it creates a problem since the vast majority in Indonesia/Malaysia/Thailand/India and nearly all of China is vaccinated with something else. And the foreign travellers from these 4 regions definitely make up more than 60% of all travellers into Singapore.
They can come with quarantine.
People from China can come to Singapore without quarantine now.
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Ministers say no big bang opening, just slow reopening starting Aug/Sept
currently 48.1% of population with both doses, 73% population with at least one, ~4 week between doses so you get 70%+ fully protected/vaccinated at end of August (6 weeks from now), before SG can really consider moving to endemic phase
USA does not have vaccine passport unlike UK/France/..., Though with delta variant things can change where countries can't get below 2-3 and vaccine passports aren't useful for sg
(ministers prefer origin countries to have 2-3 cases per 100k plus high vaccination rate, usa/france/Israel is at 10 now, UK at 65, Singapore at 0.9, hkg at 0.01)
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#12
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Not at least Sept, probably December or next year.
Ministers say no big bang opening, just slow reopening starting Aug/Sept
currently 48.1% of population with both doses, 73% population with at least one, ~4 week between doses so you get 70%+ fully protected/vaccinated at end of August (6 weeks from now), before SG can really consider moving to endemic phase
USA does not have vaccine passport unlike UK/France/..., Though with delta variant things can change where countries can't get below 2-3 and vaccine passports aren't useful for sg
(ministers prefer origin countries to have 2-3 cases per 100k plus high vaccination rate, usa/france/Israel is at 10 now, UK at 65, Singapore at 0.9, hkg at 0.01)
Ministers say no big bang opening, just slow reopening starting Aug/Sept
currently 48.1% of population with both doses, 73% population with at least one, ~4 week between doses so you get 70%+ fully protected/vaccinated at end of August (6 weeks from now), before SG can really consider moving to endemic phase
USA does not have vaccine passport unlike UK/France/..., Though with delta variant things can change where countries can't get below 2-3 and vaccine passports aren't useful for sg
(ministers prefer origin countries to have 2-3 cases per 100k plus high vaccination rate, usa/france/Israel is at 10 now, UK at 65, Singapore at 0.9, hkg at 0.01)
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it's a two way street - need both sides reciprocating, otherwise it's just a one-way street (free to go from Singapore to Canada, but not the other way around)
Canada is doing pretty well with vaccinations (68%+ population first dose, 43% fully vaccinated, similar to Singapore)
Given that Canada mixed and matches doses (doesn't affect you, but affects how Singapore determines which countries and how vaccine passports work, and Singapore only using mRNA in national campaign and considers Sinovac as a lower tier), it'll take time for SG and Canada to negotiate. I wouldn't bet on this year (or maybe a modified 3-7day quarantine at best if you had both Pfizer or both moderna, and expect significant covid insurance requirements)
Canada's requirement for entering
Travelers must present Canadian border officials with proof of vaccination. Canada will accept only the Covid vaccines it has approved for its population: those made by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca/Covishield, and Janssen, the brand used by Johnson & Johnson in Canada
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Well at least it was not declared that ‘Lockdown is Opening’ in line of
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Bloomberg already has an article
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...he-ktv-cluster
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength
Bloomberg already has an article
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...he-ktv-cluster