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Dec 29, 21, 10:48 am
#361
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Originally Posted by StuckInYYZ
I probably wouldn't detail out the flights just yet. Things can change pretty quickly (ala the next omicron). That said, the LAX/JFK VTL flights aren't too bad (Assuming you're willing to be in a plane that long without a break inbetween). Leaves a little earlier than the EVA flight but still not too bad (at least for me and the evening flights).
Yeah im probably pulling the trigger too fast.
Dec 29, 21, 11:22 am
#362
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I have to wonder whether EVA has enough traffic to sustain their North American route network for another year or even another few months, if things continue the way they are with Taiwan closed as a transit point and Asia travel depressed. I don't know whether they do or don't -- just musing out loud.
I've taken too may trips to count on EVA to/from BKK over the past 20+ years, having been a huge fan of their schedules (e.g. middle of the night departures), but unfortunately I'm not counting on them as a reliable option in the future at this point due to Taiwan being closed for so long with no end in sight.
I've taken too may trips to count on EVA to/from BKK over the past 20+ years, having been a huge fan of their schedules (e.g. middle of the night departures), but unfortunately I'm not counting on them as a reliable option in the future at this point due to Taiwan being closed for so long with no end in sight.
Dec 29, 21, 11:29 am
#363
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,077
Originally Posted by Beetles
Im using Lifemiles, so the nonstop VTL flights arent a desirable option since SQ likely wont release J class award inventory to partners. The EVA Houston flight is ideal because of winter OPS and my positioning flight is much closer to IAH vs ORD/JFK.
Yeah im probably pulling the trigger too fast.
Yeah im probably pulling the trigger too fast.
Dec 29, 21, 2:06 pm
#364
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Originally Posted by Beetles
So im starting my January 2023 planning and debating between booking ANA or EVA o SIN. Purely speculating but im leaning towards ANA under the assumption that Japan will open a VTL with Singapore before Taiwan. On the other hand I prefer the midnight departures from the US that EVA offers.
decisions..
decisions..
Originally Posted by tai4de2
I have to wonder whether EVA has enough traffic to sustain their North American route network for another year or even another few months, if things continue the way they are with Taiwan closed as a transit point and Asia travel depressed. I don't know whether they do or don't -- just musing out loud.
I've taken too may trips to count on EVA to/from BKK over the past 20+ years, having been a huge fan of their schedules (e.g. middle of the night departures), but unfortunately I'm not counting on them as a reliable option in the future at this point due to Taiwan being closed for so long with no end in sight.
I've taken too may trips to count on EVA to/from BKK over the past 20+ years, having been a huge fan of their schedules (e.g. middle of the night departures), but unfortunately I'm not counting on them as a reliable option in the future at this point due to Taiwan being closed for so long with no end in sight.
Dec 29, 21, 2:45 pm
#365
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Originally Posted by Beetles
So im starting my January 2023 planning and debating between booking ANA or EVA o SIN. Purely speculating but im leaning towards ANA under the assumption that Japan will open a VTL with Singapore before Taiwan. On the other hand I prefer the midnight departures from the US that EVA offers.
decisions..
decisions..
Dec 29, 21, 3:16 pm
#366
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Originally Posted by exp
Do those arrive in the morning or late at night? Hated arriving in HKG around 10 PM and then paying for a hotel room which sometimes meant getting into your room well after midnight.
Dec 29, 21, 4:16 pm
#367
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Originally Posted by exp
Do those arrive in the morning or late at night? Hated arriving in HKG around 10 PM and then paying for a hotel room which sometimes meant getting into your room well after midnight.
The more I talk about this the more i’m talking myself into booking the EVA flight not knowing if its going to operate as a VTL. Award space from IAH is usually grabbed quickly.
Last edited by Beetles; Dec 29, 21 at 4:25 pm
Dec 29, 21, 4:23 pm
#368
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 131
Originally Posted by lsquare
That's what I like about Asian airlines like MU, CX, CI, and BR. Maybe we're in the minority, but I prefer flying tpac at night than during the day.
Me too!
Me too!
Dec 29, 21, 4:26 pm
#369
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Originally Posted by exp
Do those arrive in the morning or late at night? Hated arriving in HKG around 10 PM and then paying for a hotel room which sometimes meant getting into your room well after midnight.
Dec 29, 21, 4:30 pm
#370
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Originally Posted by Beetles
Even Delta has a midnight ATL-ICN flight pre-covid. Worked well for most everywhere except Singapore because the earliest ICN-SIN flight is around 2pm. But for the 9am BKK flight on Korean Air its ideal. Delta had to change it to a daytime flight to comply with South Korea requirements. Hopefully it gets moved back to midnight at some point.
DL's tpac flights out of SEA are in mid-day, so not quite ideal for me. I wish there were late-night departures to PVG and TYO.
Dec 29, 21, 5:36 pm
#371
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Originally Posted by lsquare
Which DL flight is that? SIN probably doesn't work since ICN is quite far from SE Asia. I guess that it'll arrive late in the evening Singapore time?
DL's tpac flights out of SEA are in mid-day, so not quite ideal for me. I wish there were late-night departures to PVG and TYO.
DL's tpac flights out of SEA are in mid-day, so not quite ideal for me. I wish there were late-night departures to PVG and TYO.
Dec 29, 21, 5:53 pm
#372
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Originally Posted by Beetles
Atlanta to Seoul. Pre-covid it departed at midnight. It matched up perfectly to the Korean Air flight leaving Seoul at 9am to BKK. But the earliest KE flight to Singapore is around 2pm so the layover on that one isnt so great.
Pre-COVID, I flew MU a lot, whether I had to go to PVG or just connect to HKG, KUL, BKK, or SIN. The timing was great. The only problem is that I have DL status, which doesn't get me as much on MU.
Dec 29, 21, 6:37 pm
#373
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Originally Posted by lsquare
I meant the DL flight number. Yea, I get that it was pre-COVID. I want to keep this in mind for the future should everything comes back to normal. So after arriving at ICN, you can quickly hop on the new KE flight to BKK? Which KE flight number is that?
Pre-COVID, I flew MU a lot, whether I had to go to PVG or just connect to HKG, KUL, BKK, or SIN. The timing was great. The only problem is that I have DL status, which doesn't get me as much on MU.
Pre-COVID, I flew MU a lot, whether I had to go to PVG or just connect to HKG, KUL, BKK, or SIN. The timing was great. The only problem is that I have DL status, which doesn't get me as much on MU.
DL27. Not sure about the KE flight number.
Dec 29, 21, 6:42 pm
#375
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Originally Posted by lsquare
Pre-COVID, I flew MU a lot, whether I had to go to PVG or just connect to HKG, KUL, BKK, or SIN. The timing was great. The only problem is that I have DL status, which doesn't get me as much on MU.
Not sure how the airports stack up now or will stack up post-covid, but can't be that bad to transit through.
