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Two airbnb hosts are fined $60000 each

Old Apr 3, 2018, 1:51 am
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Two airbnb hosts are fined $60000 each

Guess AirBnB in Singapore is officially over. And they fined not people who offered their properties at HDB, but provate condos.
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Old Apr 3, 2018, 8:55 am
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Guess AirBnB in Singapore is officially over. And they fined not people who offered their properties at HDB, but provate condos.
I assume AirBnB is paying those fines?
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Old Apr 3, 2018, 10:18 am
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I assume AirBnB is paying those fines?
Nice sarcasm.
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by CrazyInteg
I assume AirBnB is paying those fines?
No, the fines are against the 2 Singaporean hosts.

"The two men, 35-year-old Terence Tan En Wei and 34-year-old Yao Song Liang, 34, pleaded guilty in February for letting four units in a condominium for less than six months without permission from the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA). They were charged in December last year."

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...tting-10098578
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 12:11 pm
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Sorry, I had forgotten about this thread. I was serious with my first reply, of AirBnB paying the fine.

After the incident I did some googling, but could not find an answer. The rule mentions six months. Does that mean one customer must stay in the residence for at least 6 months, or does it mean any combination of people can stay there, but they need to stay for a combination of up to 6 months?

I just picked some random dates this year, for 4 night stays, and there are hundreds of rooms available in Singapore on AirBnB.
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by CrazyInteg
Sorry, I had forgotten about this thread. I was serious with my first reply, of AirBnB paying the fine.

After the incident I did some googling, but could not find an answer. The rule mentions six months. Does that mean one customer must stay in the residence for at least 6 months, or does it mean any combination of people can stay there, but they need to stay for a combination of up to 6 months?

I just picked some random dates this year, for 4 night stays, and there are hundreds of rooms available in Singapore on AirBnB.
By law, rental of private properties for less than 3 month is not allowed. And yes, if you for example have 2 month internship in the city and your place of employment/study does not provide lodging, then you have stay in hotels by the rule of law.

As far as renting AirBnB in Singapore - if you are a guest, as I see right now maximum you are risking is that you and your stuff is thrown on street. It is the host which has much more at stake here.
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 11:17 pm
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I just picked some random dates this year, for 4 night stays, and there are hundreds of rooms available in Singapore on AirBnB.

I wonder what it was that Terry and his mate did wrong to get picked on ? Just a random choice to set an example, or did they forget to pay someone off?

Who knows, maybe corruption in Singapore is closer to the surface than we imagined
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Old Apr 11, 2018, 8:34 pm
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I wonder what it was that Terry and his mate did wrong to get picked on ? Just a random choice to set an example
This.

Authorities way to deal with problems can be expressed as 'shooting sparrows from a canon'. Multiple cases of such approach:
- chewing gum,
- Zuok club and Clarke Quay
- Result of Little India rioting - banning alcohol sale in the whole country after 10:30PM and designating certain areas completely alcohol free
- clean-up of Gaylang
- Finally: consequence of last year's arrest of several dozen women from Russia/xSU countries for prostitution - now travel agencies have following clause on their page:

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Old Apr 12, 2018, 2:24 am
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This..
Thanks! So that's a pour encourager les autres approach. Poor old Terry and mate.


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Yikes! I'd hope some representation by the national authorities concerned has been made either to their Singapore counterparts, and/or to the agencies peddling and publishing such offensive nonsense.
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Old Apr 12, 2018, 7:18 am
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Yikes! I'd hope some representation by the national authorities concerned has been made either to their Singapore counterparts, and/or to the agencies peddling and publishing such offensive nonsense.
I am 100% sure that no such thing was done. When I contacted this agency to process tourist visa for my brother (which obviously is not a female) for two week visit of Singapore, I was told that person who comes to Singapore for two weeks 'is not a tourist' and it was told them by ICA.

When I asked them what is their definition of 'tourist' - as a person who needs to get a visa to come to Singapore, I was told that is is a person who comes to stay for no more than three days and such person needs to provide list of all museums and other venues hi/she plans to visit. Long story of BS told - they, the travel agency refused to submit visa application for my brother. I simply asked my coworker and it was done in one day and for 1/3 of the price travel agency charged.

But putting above aside, you'll get and idea...
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I wonder what it was that Terry and his mate did wrong to get picked on ? Just a random choice to set an example, or did they forget to pay someone off?
Possibly this

Originally Posted by http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/airbnb-hosts-who-made-illegal-short-term-home-rentals-fined-60000-each
In deciding on the fine, the judge said there were several aggravating factors, such as the duo’s pre-meditation to be a profit-driven enterprise, advertising their d’Leedon condominium units in Farrer Road which they had subletted on portals like Airbnb or Homeaway.

As former real estate agents – their licenses have since been revoked – they also should have known that short-term stays were illegal, he said.
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As former real estate agents – their licenses have since been revoked – they also should have known that short-term stays were illegal, he said.
Wow!
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 12:20 am
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In deciding on the fine, the judge said there were several aggravating factors, such as the duo’s pre-meditation to be a profit-driven enterprise
Is not that ironic, considering that government brands the country in this matter?...
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