SQ Downgrades SIN-KUL and VV from F to J
Feb 26, 2008, 5:57 am
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SQ Downgrades SIN-KUL and VV from F to J
I have two upcoming bookings, SQ108 on 4 April SIN-KUL and SQ107 9 April, both of which have been "rebooked" by SQ as Business Class.
Although the F service to KUL and return was always J seats, it was nice to have F status. I haven't seen a price change, and suspect it's related to the opening up of the route to the LCCs.
It also appears some flights (e.g. Sq119 on 9 April) might still have F.
The SQ booking site only shows economy availability, suggesting they are still sorting it out.
Anyone shed light?
Although the F service to KUL and return was always J seats, it was nice to have F status. I haven't seen a price change, and suspect it's related to the opening up of the route to the LCCs.
It also appears some flights (e.g. Sq119 on 9 April) might still have F.
The SQ booking site only shows economy availability, suggesting they are still sorting it out.
Anyone shed light?
Feb 26, 2008, 7:04 am
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Looks like it is effective 01 APR. This will thankfully get me out of economy when on CPSTAR tickets. Man that burns me to be on one of these and get stuck in the back of the bus.
Feb 26, 2008, 7:24 am
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Feb 26, 2008, 2:36 pm
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I previously booked flights SIN-KUL on 4 July 2008 and KUL-SIN-LAX on 7 July 2008.
When I checked the booking online, they had erased my seat preferences for the KUL-SIN shuttle segments. When I went back in to put my seat preferences again, the website shows me as having TWO flights each day, one in F and the other in J, for the same exact flight...aiyo!
When, oh when, will SQ stop changing changing changing their @#$! planes, classes, etc?!
As others have said, so much for the great NZ Airpoints earning rate, LOL.
When I checked the booking online, they had erased my seat preferences for the KUL-SIN shuttle segments. When I went back in to put my seat preferences again, the website shows me as having TWO flights each day, one in F and the other in J, for the same exact flight...aiyo!
When, oh when, will SQ stop changing changing changing their @#$! planes, classes, etc?!
As others have said, so much for the great NZ Airpoints earning rate, LOL.
Feb 26, 2008, 3:56 pm
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The reason the route was offered in F and Y only was to do with the legacy bilateral agreement with Malaysia, which nobody had touched for fear of allowing Air Asia onto the route. It was never an F service onboard beyond F napkins and tableware, so it was a total anomaly on the network. Now that the air services agreement is liberalised, SQ and MH can do whatever they want to the route, so why maintain F (...except in order to allow all of us FTers cut price F lounge access
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Feb 26, 2008, 4:09 pm
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For me, it's really about losing 20 APD each flight with my NZ Airpoints account, even though paying the same price 
For such a short flight, being in a biz seat and the service is not really a priority for me.
I must admit I'm getting dizzy with all the changes that SQ is going thru - I've fallen victim to the SQ27/28 changes out of LAX, as well as deciding to reroute until I find out what is really happening and when with the SQ37/38 A345 out of LAX. And then I read about other rapid changes, like increasing and quickly decreasing frequency of flights in/out of MAN, etc.
Yes, market changes do drive all these things, but I wonder if SQ management has someone in a manic phase making all these decisions!
For such a short flight, being in a biz seat and the service is not really a priority for me.
I must admit I'm getting dizzy with all the changes that SQ is going thru - I've fallen victim to the SQ27/28 changes out of LAX, as well as deciding to reroute until I find out what is really happening and when with the SQ37/38 A345 out of LAX. And then I read about other rapid changes, like increasing and quickly decreasing frequency of flights in/out of MAN, etc.
Yes, market changes do drive all these things, but I wonder if SQ management has someone in a manic phase making all these decisions!
Feb 26, 2008, 4:22 pm
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Hmm, so it seems.
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.5/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
First Class still seems available on MH.
[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.5/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:
SIN Singapore Changi SG [WSSS] KUL Kuala Lumpur Int'l MY [WMKK] THU 10 Apr 2008 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -------------------------- SQ 102 SIN 07:10 KUL 08:05 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D2 S9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W9 N9 V9 T9 L9 K0 SQ 106 SIN 08:35 KUL 09:30 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D2 S9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W9 N9 V9 T9 L9 K0 SQ 108 SIN 12:45 KUL 13:40 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D2 S9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W9 N9 V9 T9 L9 K9 SQ 112 SIN 15:10 KUL 16:05 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D2 S9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W9 N9 V9 T9 L9 K9 SQ 116 SIN 17:00 KUL 17:55 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D2 S9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W9 N9 V9 T9 L9 K9 SQ 118 SIN 20:00 KUL 20:55 772 0 Z4 C4 J4 D2 S9 Y9 B9 E9 M9 H0 Q0 W0 N0 V0 T0 L9 K9
Feb 26, 2008, 5:12 pm
#13
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Frustrating huh? I had planned to do a mileage run on this route again but not sure if I still want to do it so it seems. Sometimes you just have to love the logic (or lack thereof) of the Airpoints program.
Feb 26, 2008, 5:30 pm
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At least the good news is that others now will apparently have better award/ticketing availability with SQ.