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bertheike Oct 25, 2007 10:29 am

A380 future flight plan ?
 
reading the press release the curent A380 has a daily groundtime in SIN from 13.45 until 20.30 , around 6h.45m.
isn't that enough for a short trip ? JKT comes in mind 1h.05m. groundtime / 1h.35 flight / 1h.05m. groundtime / and again 1h.35 flight / 1h.05m. groundtime . total = 6h.25m ?

whiskey_sk Oct 25, 2007 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by bertheike (Post 8618486)
reading the press release the curent A380 has a daily groundtime in SIN from 13.45 until 20.30 , around 6h.45m.
isn't that enough for a short trip ? JKT comes in mind 1h.05m. groundtime / 1h.35 flight / 1h.05m. groundtime / and again 1h.35 flight / 1h.05m. groundtime . total = 6h.25m ?

do you reckon there would be enough load for the bird between SIN and CGK? I flew on that route only once, and the 345 was half empty, on a weekday morning.

bertheike Oct 25, 2007 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by whiskey_sk (Post 8619186)
do you reckon there would be enough load for the bird between SIN and CGK? I flew on that route only once, and the 345 was half empty, on a weekday morning.

SQ fly that route nearly every 2-3 h. ! If they would not have enough demand, they would not fly that often. And all the flights are with 345 or 777.

zvezda Oct 25, 2007 1:18 pm

The time on the ground is needed for maintenance.

bertheike Oct 25, 2007 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by zvezda (Post 8619650)
The time on the ground is needed for maintenance.

6h.45m. ??? hardly to beleve

whiskey_sk Oct 25, 2007 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by bertheike (Post 8619321)
SQ fly that route nearly every 2-3 h. ! If they would not have enough demand, they would not fly that often. And all the flights are with 345 or 777.

Following the same logic, obviously the demand is not big enough and 345/777 are sufficient, otherwise they would use 380. Anyway, all this is just speculating, I'm rather convinced SQ has got enough hard data to decide and they have their reasons for doing it the way they're doing it.

Singapore_Air Oct 25, 2007 5:01 pm


"SIA is not planning to stop the first aircraft for any maintenance activity before the arrival of the second aircraft next year," says Mhun. "So the A check, for example, which has a 750h interval, will be broken into three or four packages consistent with the 6h turnaround in Singapore."
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ice-entry.html

getaround Oct 25, 2007 9:29 pm

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ClassCAir Oct 25, 2007 9:52 pm

When an airplane type is completely new, airlines generally give the plenty of downtime between flights for periodic maintenence checks & minor alterations. They don't schedule ultra long haul or in an agressive schedule until they've had some time to work out the kinks.

zvezda Oct 25, 2007 11:44 pm


Originally Posted by bertheike (Post 8619930)
6h.45m. ??? hardly to beleve

Show me one example of an airline fleet with a utilization of more than 16 flight hours per day.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 28, 2007 4:47 am


Originally Posted by zvezda (Post 8619650)
The time on the ground is needed for maintenance.

Just as importantly, need plenty of time to catch up any delays. Especially with so few a/c of that type (since higher capacity any change of equipment will cause problems), and especially when operating SYD route (due to SYD's curfew and sometimes bad weather issues).

If SQ operated the a/c with no down time then any delay more than a few minutes would force flights to be cancelled to make get back onto schedule.

icarius Oct 28, 2007 4:58 pm

Today is the first day when the A380 flys its regular scheduled route. Normally the 747 scheduled for the route comes into syd at 0600 and leaves at around 11am, to give a maintenance time of around 3 hours to clean and replenish stocks. The time given for the A380 is from 0700 to 0850. a time of only 1/2 hour to 1 hour for replenishments and cleaning. The A380 is supposedly being callled a 737 piggy back on a 747. Does it make sense?

zvezda Oct 29, 2007 4:55 am


Originally Posted by icarius (Post 8635626)
The A380 is supposedly being callled a 737 piggy back on a 747. Does it make sense?

The WhaleJet's upper deck is about the same width as an A300/A310/A330/A340. It is nothing like a 737 upstairs.

chornedsnorkack Oct 29, 2007 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by zvezda (Post 8637931)
The WhaleJet's upper deck is about the same width as an A300/A310/A330/A340. It is nothing like a 737 upstairs.

Indeed. It is 747 which is like 737 upstairs.

How long is the A380 upper deck compared to A310, A300, A330/340-200 et cetera?


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