The infamous JFK-FRA SQ25 Route
#931
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, SQ PPS Solitaire
Posts: 3,241
Whether you fly in Suites, First, Business or at the back of the plane: You can actually tell them when you want the cake to be served. Just pay a discreet visit to the galley if you don't want the other person to know. More often than not, crew is actually asking when it's best to serve (and kind of spoiling the surprise moment).
#932
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: BOS
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Mosaic
Posts: 1,025
What's next, charging for a drink?
#933
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 379
Flying out later this week and absolutely dreading the flight, especially given I'll be in economy.
A few questions:
1) What is the wifi like and are there restrictions (i.e. doesn't work over certain countries/bodies of water etc.)?
2) Any recs while in FRA? I have an AMEX Platinum - any lounges with a decent shower? Any decent places for a meal or a pastry, like a croissant? Any spots where I could get a good meal (e.g. a sandwich) to-go (to eat later on the flight).
3) This is an award ticket via United. I am blocked out from trying online, but I assume I cannot call and attempt to upgrade via KrisFlyer points? Maybe there's a last minute cancellation or two... here's to hoping.
Thanks in advance.
A few questions:
1) What is the wifi like and are there restrictions (i.e. doesn't work over certain countries/bodies of water etc.)?
2) Any recs while in FRA? I have an AMEX Platinum - any lounges with a decent shower? Any decent places for a meal or a pastry, like a croissant? Any spots where I could get a good meal (e.g. a sandwich) to-go (to eat later on the flight).
3) This is an award ticket via United. I am blocked out from trying online, but I assume I cannot call and attempt to upgrade via KrisFlyer points? Maybe there's a last minute cancellation or two... here's to hoping.
Thanks in advance.
#934
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 26,270
2) Any recs while in FRA? I have an AMEX Platinum - any lounges with a decent shower?
3) This is an award ticket via United. I am blocked out from trying online, but I assume I cannot call and attempt to upgrade via KrisFlyer points? Maybe there's a last minute cancellation or two... here's to hoping.
#936
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 379
You don't say if you're just flying to FRA or also onto SIN. No specific restrictions that I'm aware of between JFK and FRA, but I think either upthread (or separately in the SQ forum) I reported on how difficult it was to connect to the network on board.
Did you look at the Amex app?
I highly doubt you could use KF points to upgrade a partner award ticket but I am admittedly not an expert. You could, of course, re-issue the UA award ticket in a higher class of service (not sure if they offer PE awards, but they do Business), subject to availability. Or you may be able to buy up for cash, either in advance or at the airport. And of course you can always evaluate other routings/airlines for a MileagePlus award, like LH (would give you better lounge options in FRA) or even UA (e.g., via SFO), or a combo of UA/partner (e.g., via TYO).
Did you look at the Amex app?
I highly doubt you could use KF points to upgrade a partner award ticket but I am admittedly not an expert. You could, of course, re-issue the UA award ticket in a higher class of service (not sure if they offer PE awards, but they do Business), subject to availability. Or you may be able to buy up for cash, either in advance or at the airport. And of course you can always evaluate other routings/airlines for a MileagePlus award, like LH (would give you better lounge options in FRA) or even UA (e.g., via SFO), or a combo of UA/partner (e.g., via TYO).
- I'll be going all the way to Singapore.
- I know about the AMEX app - moreso seeing if anyone here has any first-hand experience/recommendations.
- UA doesn't have availability for higher class of service unfortunately/I have exhausted checking UA/other airlines award tickets trying to find a Business Class seat that fits within when I want to depart and arrive in Singapore.
#937
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 583
Thanks!
- I'll be going all the way to Singapore.
- I know about the AMEX app - moreso seeing if anyone here has any first-hand experience/recommendations.
- UA doesn't have availability for higher class of service unfortunately/I have exhausted checking UA/other airlines award tickets trying to find a Business Class seat that fits within when I want to depart and arrive in Singapore.
- I'll be going all the way to Singapore.
- I know about the AMEX app - moreso seeing if anyone here has any first-hand experience/recommendations.
- UA doesn't have availability for higher class of service unfortunately/I have exhausted checking UA/other airlines award tickets trying to find a Business Class seat that fits within when I want to depart and arrive in Singapore.
Based on my KF awards, 2-3 days before the flights SQ would email for a bid to upgrade to next available cabin.
Or you could try asking at JFK during check in.
I did this flight in Y in 2019. With a crying baby next to me from JFK-FRA leg. Ain't that bad. And you will get through it. There's alcohol on this flight

#938
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: BOS/ORH
Programs: AS 75K
Posts: 18,297
It appears the Wingtips lounge has shut down permanently as of the 12th (Yesterday)..I guess I won't be having much luck getting into the Virgin Lounge on a premium economy ticket with Amex plat if J pax get switched back over.
Last edited by CDKing; Nov 13, 22 at 9:38 am
#939
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Virginia USA
Posts: 985
on the day i left Virgin wasn't taking any amex entries until after 630pm, and even that was a maybe (i didn't go back)
#940
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ TPPS/*G, Starlux Explorer, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,168
#941
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 12
I am flying out in couple days and it seems my 7+ hrs layover lounge option get worst and worst
I was hoping to get in to Virgin CH but my Amex app show they are closing at 11am? I heard Wingtips
was not great but I heard Air India Maharaja Lounge is even worst?

I was hoping to get in to Virgin CH but my Amex app show they are closing at 11am? I heard Wingtips
was not great but I heard Air India Maharaja Lounge is even worst?
#942
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
Programs: Costco Executive, RaceTrac King of Coffee, Chick-fil-A Red
Posts: 5,535
In September when I flew J was sent to Wingtips and *G to AI. I doubt anything has changed as I decided to check out the AI lounge for the heck of it and it barely fit PP and *G so how could it possibly accommodate an A380 of J pax?
#943
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Zurich / Singapore
Programs: LH SEN, BA Gold, TPPS
Posts: 570
VS CH is open in the evenings to accommodate the VS flights back to Blighty. More likely VS is limiting access to Amex plats.
#945
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 12
I think I am really screwed with my 7+ hrs layover since I cannot get my boarding pass until check in at JFK 4 hrs before departure.
Without a boarding pass, I am limited to stay in the pre-security area for 3+ hours and found JFK has pretty much nothing
I hope I am wrong with above info, please let me know where I can get something to eat without leaving the airport. Thanks!
Without a boarding pass, I am limited to stay in the pre-security area for 3+ hours and found JFK has pretty much nothing

I hope I am wrong with above info, please let me know where I can get something to eat without leaving the airport. Thanks!