The infamous JFK-FRA SQ25 Route
Sep 19, 22, 8:51 pm
#871
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 16
Things can certainly vary from flight to flight! Next time you are on it try the last two rows to see if there's more of a difference. I think being behind the last emergency exit has something to do with the colder temp. I found another from several years back that mentions the same. But as others commented perhaps SQ is operating a higher overall cabin temp than in days past.
From the trip report: The only downside was that it got very cold. As it is right next to the door, it is freezing! But if you walk up two meters, just ahead of the door to row 95, it’s a perfect temperature
Edit to add that Mainly Miles has a comment on Row 96 being very cold (It's also listed as one of the worst seats! Was ok for me but it may not suit others).
From the trip report: The only downside was that it got very cold. As it is right next to the door, it is freezing! But if you walk up two meters, just ahead of the door to row 95, it’s a perfect temperature
Edit to add that Mainly Miles has a comment on Row 96 being very cold (It's also listed as one of the worst seats! Was ok for me but it may not suit others).
of the foot space and double bed. Now reading row 96 can be very cold and noises from the galley, I am not so sure anymore.
Can someone let me know if row 96 double bed is anything special compared to other middle seats? Thanks.
Sep 19, 22, 9:01 pm
#872
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Wife and I currently have 95D and 95F from JFK - SIN, I was going to move to 96D and 96F four days prior if they are available because
of the foot space and double bed. Now reading row 96 can be very cold and noises from the galley, I am not so sure anymore.
Can someone let me know if row 96 double bed is anything special compared to other middle seats? Thanks.
of the foot space and double bed. Now reading row 96 can be very cold and noises from the galley, I am not so sure anymore.
Can someone let me know if row 96 double bed is anything special compared to other middle seats? Thanks.
Sep 19, 22, 10:38 pm
#873
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Not on my flight anyway , YMMV
Came across the boarding pass yesterday while rummaging for something else
96 K SQ25 , 3 June
Last seat available !
Last edited by FlyerEC; Sep 19, 22 at 10:48 pm Reason: Deleted photo .. Seems shows ticket number !
Sep 19, 22, 10:49 pm
#874
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Zurich / Singapore
Programs: LH SEN, BA Gold, TPPS
Posts: 580
I tend to have a pref for row 96. Never had an issue with noise from galley, but I am one of those odd people who can shut out noise easily. I always pick this row when flying J on 380. Cant say I had any smells from galley either, those hepa filters are pretty good!
Sep 19, 22, 10:53 pm
#875
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ TPPS/*G, Starlux Explorer, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,267
I'm the same as RayG and typically go with the last bulkhead. Also haven't noticed any food smells. I almost always use ear plugs and eye shades though when sleeping.
Sep 20, 22, 12:29 am
#876
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ TPPS/*G, Starlux Explorer, Hyatt Globalist
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Personally speaking (other may have a different view), I think SQ oversells the notion of a double bed. The only difference here is that as these seats are bulkhead your feet are not angled into the cubby hole as with other seats. This allows you to both sleep straight. Your upper bodies have the same seat divider as any other middle pair of seats. Do I prefer the bulkhead seats? Yes, as I'm tall and like the extra leg space. Is it really a double bed? No.
Sep 20, 22, 1:13 am
#877
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Zurich / Singapore
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Personally speaking (other may have a different view), I think SQ oversells the notion of a double bed. The only difference here is that as these seats are bulkhead your feet are not angled into the cubby hole as with other seats. This allows you to both sleep straight. Your upper bodies have the same seat divider as any other middle pair of seats. Do I prefer the bulkhead seats? Yes, as I'm tall and like the extra leg space. Is it really a double bed? No.
On a separate note, apart from row 96 being a bulkhead, the true benefit to me is that in pre-revenge travel times, the back of the bus used to be emptier in J, which always made for a much pleasanter ride -- obviously this is no longer the case.
Sep 20, 22, 1:43 am
#878
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: SQ TPPS/*G, Starlux Explorer, Hyatt Globalist
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Indeed! Usually a bit more empty I thought between JFK and FRA than FRA and SIN.
Sep 20, 22, 1:56 pm
#880
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Singapore
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I believe these should be unblocked about 48h or so before the flight. I did this about two weeks ago when I did FRA-JFK, and I secure three seats on row 96, including the middle ones, which I wanted for my daughter to have the flat bed close to my wife's.
Sep 22, 22, 7:08 am
#881
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 11
Quick recap of our experience on this route a week and a half ago:
We were asked to wear masks to board, but then really only wore them for take off and if we had to use the lavatory.
PDB was only juice or sparkling water
No hot towels (we were given these several times on our return flight on KLM)
Amenity kits were given on request
FAs were nice, but not overly friendly
Food was good, except that the only options for the "breakfast" were a Rueben sandwich or a noodle dish. I just wanted some fruit and yogurt lol.
All in all a good flight, it was our first time in SQ Business as well as our first time in KLM Business and I have to say I enjoyed all aspects of KLM just a bit more. The KLM staff was wonderful, the FA apologized to me that a bit of the silver coating on the divider was worn off, not that it affected me in the least.
We were asked to wear masks to board, but then really only wore them for take off and if we had to use the lavatory.
PDB was only juice or sparkling water
No hot towels (we were given these several times on our return flight on KLM)
Amenity kits were given on request
FAs were nice, but not overly friendly
Food was good, except that the only options for the "breakfast" were a Rueben sandwich or a noodle dish. I just wanted some fruit and yogurt lol.
All in all a good flight, it was our first time in SQ Business as well as our first time in KLM Business and I have to say I enjoyed all aspects of KLM just a bit more. The KLM staff was wonderful, the FA apologized to me that a bit of the silver coating on the divider was worn off, not that it affected me in the least.
Sep 22, 22, 9:15 am
#882
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
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Quick recap of our experience on this route a week and a half ago:
We were asked to wear masks to board, but then really only wore them for take off and if we had to use the lavatory.
PDB was only juice or sparkling water
No hot towels (we were given these several times on our return flight on KLM)
Amenity kits were given on request
FAs were nice, but not overly friendly
Food was good, except that the only options for the "breakfast" were a Rueben sandwich or a noodle dish. I just wanted some fruit and yogurt lol.
All in all a good flight, it was our first time in SQ Business as well as our first time in KLM Business and I have to say I enjoyed all aspects of KLM just a bit more. The KLM staff was wonderful, the FA apologized to me that a bit of the silver coating on the divider was worn off, not that it affected me in the least.
We were asked to wear masks to board, but then really only wore them for take off and if we had to use the lavatory.
PDB was only juice or sparkling water
No hot towels (we were given these several times on our return flight on KLM)
Amenity kits were given on request
FAs were nice, but not overly friendly
Food was good, except that the only options for the "breakfast" were a Rueben sandwich or a noodle dish. I just wanted some fruit and yogurt lol.
All in all a good flight, it was our first time in SQ Business as well as our first time in KLM Business and I have to say I enjoyed all aspects of KLM just a bit more. The KLM staff was wonderful, the FA apologized to me that a bit of the silver coating on the divider was worn off, not that it affected me in the least.
Sep 23, 22, 6:04 pm
#884
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On my connecting flight on Lufthansa, they DID require FF2/KN95, which they handed out (I only carry a stretchy-cloth mask). SQ didn't care what kind of mask. But I think the mandate drops soon anyway.
Sep 23, 22, 6:52 pm
#885
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
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Luckily my connection is on SK (which was one of the first to get rid of masks) so no worries there.
