The infamous JFK-FRA SQ25 Route
#781
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Zurich
Programs: LH SEN, BA Gold, TPPS
Posts: 519
Spot on. Personally don't care for western style breakfasts so this is preferable, tho I manage only a couple of bites and never finish the second meal.
#782
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: Delta, Marriott
Posts: 154
SQ25 in F vs SQ23 in J - how meaningful is the experience difference? Good saver availability for SQ23 (vs waitlist for SQ25) on my travel dates and the direct aspect of it is attractive to me - but i do love the idea of the A380.
#783
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LAX/NYC
Programs: Bonvoy Ambassador, HH G, BR Diamond/*G, BAEC Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 511
Suites is a significantly better experience than Business class. Clearing waitlists however is a coin flip.
#784
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: BOS/SIN
Programs: DL 0 Million Miler (and PM), Amtrak Select, OZ Diamond Plus, BA Silver
Posts: 1,619
Do you have amex plat? If so, I would go to VS lounge and eat there (the VS lounge is incidentally far and away superior to the JFK centurion). J on its own gets you only access to the Wingtips lounge which moved there when LX moved to JFK T1 earlier this year. I tend to not bother on board as I find the Book the Cook options out of JFK a bit underwhelming. Tt being said, I had a decent short rib dish out of there. CC are very good in completing the service efficiently and quickly to allow for rest.
#785
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Zurich
Programs: LH SEN, BA Gold, TPPS
Posts: 519
Did VS kick SQ out of the clubhouse again? (Or did SQ decide they no longer wanted to pay more $ for J passengers?) SQ was still sending J pax to the clubhouse earlier this year (post-LX move) but I guess that must have ended at some point since the website also says Wingtips again
The changes are effective this month. July still had the old (interim rather) rules when I swung by.
There is still the option of accessing the VS lounge with amex plat, should you have it.
#786
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: DFW
Programs: AAdvantage GLD 1.74MM
Posts: 240
Can anyone confirm if AMEX Platinum does get access to Clubhouse in the early evening before SQ25?
Thanks.

#787
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 26,132
There have been sporadic reports of the VS lounge not admitting Amex Platinum holders due to crowding, but for all intents and purposes, you can access the club all day (max 3 [possibly 2] hours before departure though). The info in the website/app is incorrect.
There's a thread in the Amex forum specifically on this topic.
There's a thread in the Amex forum specifically on this topic.
#788
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 36
Aircraft Swap?
Hi all, I’m looking to fly this route specifically to enjoy the A380. I know SQ doesn’t have a reputation like Qatar does for changing planes, but I’ve read online that SQ have only confirmed their schedule/aircraft up until March 25th 2023 and that routes beyond that date can be more likely to have an equipment change.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
#789
Join Date: May 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: OWE, *G
Posts: 219
Hi all, I’m looking to fly this route specifically to enjoy the A380. I know SQ doesn’t have a reputation like Qatar does for changing planes, but I’ve read online that SQ have only confirmed their schedule/aircraft up until March 25th 2023 and that routes beyond that date can be more likely to have an equipment change.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
#790
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LAX/NYC
Programs: Bonvoy Ambassador, HH G, BR Diamond/*G, BAEC Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 511
Hi all, I’m looking to fly this route specifically to enjoy the A380. I know SQ doesn’t have a reputation like Qatar does for changing planes, but I’ve read online that SQ have only confirmed their schedule/aircraft up until March 25th 2023 and that routes beyond that date can be more likely to have an equipment change.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
SQ is not going to take the A380 off this route short of another early Covid level decimation of the air travel. This route will always be flown by an A380.
#791
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 569
Hi all, I’m looking to fly this route specifically to enjoy the A380. I know SQ doesn’t have a reputation like Qatar does for changing planes, but I’ve read online that SQ have only confirmed their schedule/aircraft up until March 25th 2023 and that routes beyond that date can be more likely to have an equipment change.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
I was hoping to travel April 2023, but upon reading this I’m willing to bring my trip forward to March to travel on the A380.
Would you recommend travelling before March 25th to reduce the risk of equipment change (perhaps back to a 777 again) once they finalise their schedule for April onwards? I’m not familiar enough with Singapore Airlines to make a judgement re: aircraft changes.
should SQ swap equipment, you will have a lot of options - all to your advantage!
My example is ZRH-SIN from suites to first. So I managed to reroute to sq25. All my equipment swap experiences have been good with SQ. You do have to push hard. Know your rights!
#792
Join Date: Oct 2020
Programs: HHonors Plat, Amex Plat
Posts: 64
Mask Mandate
Just saw that Germany expanded its mask mandate for flights to and from the country until April 2023.
Flying this route in J and F and not really excited to have to wear a mask after flying the last year or so without one. Anyone have experiences with how strict they are in F and J?
Flying this route in J and F and not really excited to have to wear a mask after flying the last year or so without one. Anyone have experiences with how strict they are in F and J?
#793
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 6,787
In J you were reminded / asked to wear the mask outside of eating / drinking though so hence folks seemed to nourish a glass of whatever beverage of choice for almost the entire flight.
In First / Suites I have only read in other threads that enforcement was more relaxed (basically they left you alone) if you were in your Suite or so. YMMV.
In First / Suites I have only read in other threads that enforcement was more relaxed (basically they left you alone) if you were in your Suite or so. YMMV.
#794


Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Enroute to ? & likely flying in ' A ':)
Programs: TPPS, UA, EK ...; Marriott BONVOY , HH, GP, GC..
Posts: 4,057
In J you were reminded / asked to wear the mask outside of eating / drinking though so hence folks seemed to nourish a glass of whatever beverage of choice for almost the entire flight.
In First / Suites I have only read in other threads that enforcement was more relaxed (basically they left you alone) if you were in your Suite or so. YMMV.
In First / Suites I have only read in other threads that enforcement was more relaxed (basically they left you alone) if you were in your Suite or so. YMMV.

#795
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Zurich
Programs: LH SEN, BA Gold, TPPS
Posts: 519
Just saw that Germany expanded its mask mandate for flights to and from the country until April 2023.
Flying this route in J and F and not really excited to have to wear a mask after flying the last year or so without one. Anyone have experiences with how strict they are in F and J?
Flying this route in J and F and not really excited to have to wear a mask after flying the last year or so without one. Anyone have experiences with how strict they are in F and J?
