The infamous JFK-FRA SQ25 Route
#151
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Two completely separate questions re: SQ 25/26:
1. Attempting to use DL miles for an SQ F award JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK. Does anyone know what class that books into? Looks like ExpertFlyer lets you see F, P and A availability.
1A. If I find availability on the ANA tool does that mean DL will see the availability as well, or are they two separate animals?
2. Is caviar still part of the service in F on SQ 25/26?
Thanks!
1. Attempting to use DL miles for an SQ F award JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK. Does anyone know what class that books into? Looks like ExpertFlyer lets you see F, P and A availability.
1A. If I find availability on the ANA tool does that mean DL will see the availability as well, or are they two separate animals?
2. Is caviar still part of the service in F on SQ 25/26?
Thanks!
#152
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Two completely separate questions re: SQ 25/26:
1. Attempting to use DL miles for an SQ F award JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK. Does anyone know what class that books into? Looks like ExpertFlyer lets you see F, P and A availability.
1A. If I find availability on the ANA tool does that mean DL will see the availability as well, or are they two separate animals?
2. Is caviar still part of the service in F on SQ 25/26?
Thanks!
1. Attempting to use DL miles for an SQ F award JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK. Does anyone know what class that books into? Looks like ExpertFlyer lets you see F, P and A availability.
1A. If I find availability on the ANA tool does that mean DL will see the availability as well, or are they two separate animals?
2. Is caviar still part of the service in F on SQ 25/26?
Thanks!
1A. DL has a restricted amount of inventory, always less and never more than what you can see on the ANA tool, in my experience.
Last edited by Savage25; Jul 13, 08 at 9:35 pm Reason: corrected wrong info
#153
Join Date: Sep 2006
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I tried to get DL seats on some SIN flights and was singularly unsuccessful. I'm not sure if I was very unlucky or DL has about six seats per year which they dole out to those who call when Mars is aligned with Jupiter, or some other unknown factor.
Good luck.
Good luck.
#155
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If DL only gets six seats a year, I get all of 'em. I may not be calling when Jupiter alligns with Mars (to quote the song), but calling 330 days out helps.
Savage25: Are you sure? jspear is asking about F. I thought F booked into O class and J/C booked into I for awards.
FWIW, seatfinder has shown availability in award classes that DL could not access when I called to scoop it. But being on a nearly-perfect itinerary in SQ F is pretty good. Perfect for the last three Christmas-New Year's in a row, nearly perfect this year is a pretty good record using DL miles.
Now if my upcoming SQ 1/2 would just go A380 (pity my poor Megatop), that would be fan-f'ing-tastic.
For menus, check the menus forum on www.sqtalk.com, the most up-to-date source for things SQ these days.
Savage25: Are you sure? jspear is asking about F. I thought F booked into O class and J/C booked into I for awards.
FWIW, seatfinder has shown availability in award classes that DL could not access when I called to scoop it. But being on a nearly-perfect itinerary in SQ F is pretty good. Perfect for the last three Christmas-New Year's in a row, nearly perfect this year is a pretty good record using DL miles.
Now if my upcoming SQ 1/2 would just go A380 (pity my poor Megatop), that would be fan-f'ing-tastic.
For menus, check the menus forum on www.sqtalk.com, the most up-to-date source for things SQ these days.
#156
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#157
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Thanks for the clarification, MegatopLover. Also, what is Seatfinder? That must be a tool that has escaped my notice so far. Googling it allows me to book lots of seats at Broadway shows but none on airlines!
So ExpertFlyer does not let you look for 'O' class (no surprise). Can I infer, at the very least, that if a flight is showing P0 that there is no chance 'O' is available?
So ExpertFlyer does not let you look for 'O' class (no surprise). Can I infer, at the very least, that if a flight is showing P0 that there is no chance 'O' is available?
#158
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My mistake! (This seems to be a thread for mistakes by regulars.) www.seatcounter.com, not seatfinder. They used to post *Alliance award-seat fare buckets, but not anymore. Some funding issue, evidently.
#159
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JFK-FRA-SIN is far more difficult to get than LAX-NRT-SIN. I hesitate to even post it -- I don't want y'all to take my seats.


#160
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Two completely separate questions re: SQ 25/26:
1. Attempting to use DL miles for an SQ F award JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK. Does anyone know what class that books into? Looks like ExpertFlyer lets you see F, P and A availability.
1A. If I find availability on the ANA tool does that mean DL will see the availability as well, or are they two separate animals?
2. Is caviar still part of the service in F on SQ 25/26?
Thanks!
1. Attempting to use DL miles for an SQ F award JFK-FRA-SIN-FRA-JFK. Does anyone know what class that books into? Looks like ExpertFlyer lets you see F, P and A availability.
1A. If I find availability on the ANA tool does that mean DL will see the availability as well, or are they two separate animals?
2. Is caviar still part of the service in F on SQ 25/26?
Thanks!
I'm trying to do JFK-FRA (stop in FRA for 2 weeks) continue onto SIN, stay there a day, then do SIN-FRA-JFK back. DL isn't sure if I can do that for 140k miles. Need to give them some dates to try to book it, and I'm waiting for my bosses to give me travel dates, sigh!
#161
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This should be 140k DL FF points, right?
I'm trying to do JFK-FRA (stop in FRA for 2 weeks) continue onto SIN, stay there a day, then do SIN-FRA-JFK back. DL isn't sure if I can do that for 140k miles. Need to give them some dates to try to book it, and I'm waiting for my bosses to give me travel dates, sigh!
I'm trying to do JFK-FRA (stop in FRA for 2 weeks) continue onto SIN, stay there a day, then do SIN-FRA-JFK back. DL isn't sure if I can do that for 140k miles. Need to give them some dates to try to book it, and I'm waiting for my bosses to give me travel dates, sigh!
#162
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Lounge Question Again ?
Sorry to bring this up again
I am flying F next sat JFK-FRA-SIN
Which lounge should I use
Im planning on going to the VS CH @ JFK , but that is landside,
Is there anything after security ?
And in FRA I know the time is an issue , so the choices are limited.
Any suggestions ?
I am flying F next sat JFK-FRA-SIN
Which lounge should I use
Im planning on going to the VS CH @ JFK , but that is landside,
Is there anything after security ?
And in FRA I know the time is an issue , so the choices are limited.
Any suggestions ?
#163
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And in FRA I know the time is an issue , so the choices are limited.
Any suggestions ?
Any suggestions ?
#164
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What about C class on this flight? What kind of lounge is available? Is it the LH business lounge? Will be flying this in a few months.
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