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Old Jul 5, 06, 12:47 am
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Ultimo J Seats

Can someone confirm by looking at these photos that these are indeed the Ultimo J seats before the Spacebeds were installed?
http://london2002.bebto.com/1.html
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Yup. Sure looks like them. Here are a couple more pictures:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0281939/L/ (Ultimo Plus seats)

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0075306/L/
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Originally Posted by Zapzig
Can someone confirm by looking at these photos that these are indeed the Ultimo J seats before the Spacebeds were installed?
http://london2002.bebto.com/1.html
The Ultimo seats are still used on most regional flights - I believe that 6 hours is the threshold for SpaceBeds but im sure someone can correct me.
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Originally Posted by Bjornstrom
The Ultimo seats are still used on most regional flights - I believe that 6 hours is the threshold for SpaceBeds but im sure someone can correct me.
AFAIK, you are referring to the Regional J seats, which are not actually Ultimos.
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See this post by StarG from last year (I believe the info is still current):

Originally Posted by StarG
I have posted this quite some time ago but couldn't seem to find it using the search function myself so here it goes again...

There are currently four types of Raffles Class seats in operation:

1) SpaceBed: the famous(ly positive & negative) lie-flat bed. Seat pitch is IIRC 58 inches on B744s and B772ERs.
2) Ultimo: exist only on one single aircraft: B747-400 with registration 9V-SMT. Seat pitch is 52 inches.
3) Regional J (New): with dark blue cloth surface. With AVOD. Seat pitch is 50". (your second picture link)
4) Regional J (Older): with light blue cloth surface. With no AVOD. Seat pitch is 50". (your first picture link)

The last two (3 & 4) exists on ALL Boeing 777 flights to Australia. So if your flight is scheduled as '777', you will get either the new Regional J or old Regional J.

Some FTers have mistakenly dubbed the new Regional J seat as Ultimo, when it is actually not. Totally different seat design.

For a redeye, of course I would take SpaceBed anytime. But these regional J seats are quite comfortable to say the least.

Hope this clears things up.
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Originally Posted by Bjornstrom
The Ultimo seats are still used on most regional flights - I believe that 6 hours is the threshold for SpaceBeds but im sure someone can correct me.
Ultimo seats are currently regional First class. There are rumours that SQ might put their spacebed as regional First.
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Originally Posted by 9V-SWP
Ultimo seats are currently regional First class.
Unless they are a modified version, that's not correct. Take a look:

Regional F seats

Ultimo seats
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Originally Posted by MovieMan
Unless they are a modified version, that's not correct. Take a look:

Regional F seats

Ultimo seats
How about this one? New Regional F

Ultimo Seats I am not wrong
Indeed you are right to say that the seats are modified. Different seat covers and more recline.

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Huh - I asked a FA on a 772 flight recently that called the Regional J seat "Ultimo". Obviously not the most accurate source but we can conclude that the different models & names are not crystal clear to most.
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Originally Posted by Bjornstrom
Huh - I asked a FA on a 772 flight recently that called the Regional J seat "Ultimo". Obviously not the most accurate source but we can conclude that the different models & names are not crystal clear to most.
The FA are not wrong to call the current J seat "ultimo". Ultimo is only a name given to regional J class. Don't be surprise if they call the future regional J seat "NEW Ultimo" and the new long haul J as "New Space bed" vice versa.
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Originally Posted by 9V-SWP
How about this one? New Regional F

Ultimo Seats I am not wrong
Those do look like Ultimos! I didn't realize there were different regional F versions (thought only the pitch varied).
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Originally Posted by MovieMan
Those do look like Ultimos! I didn't realize there were different regional F versions (thought only the pitch varied).
Actually I prefer the old regional F seat more (The version you have shown). It has more recline. The new version (The one I have shown) is only slightly bigger, more privacy but less recline which are important on my overnight flight to Beijing.
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Originally Posted by 9V-SWP
Ultimo Seats I am not wrong
Indeed you are right to say that the seats are modified. Different seat covers and more recline.
Ah! But looking at the registration, the pictures were from SV-series 772s which were the inter-continental 772s. These were on-board for a while before they were converted to Spacebeds.
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Originally Posted by 9V-JKL
Ah! But looking at the registration, the pictures were from SV-series 772s which were the inter-continental 772s. These were on-board for a while before they were converted to Spacebeds.
Yes, Ultimo seat was SQ 2nd generation long haul business class seats and space bed the 3rd. Extensively on 747 and briefly on 777 9V-SV series before being deployed as regional F. But whats your point?? Ultimo on SV series and Ultimo as Regional F on SY series.

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Originally Posted by 9V-SWP
But whats your point??
nothing more than just mentioning the SV-series did hv Ultimo in its early days
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