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cathayboy Oct 16, 2005 7:56 pm

Wake up!
 
Hi does any body know the SQ policy on waking up passengers to put the seat up so the person behind can eat their meal in comfort? On a flight from Sin to Adl SQ229 11/10 I was a sleep and the stewardess woke me up as the person behind complained she could not eat her meal in comfort. Note I had even told them do not disturb as it was an over night flight and I had to go straight to work when the plane landed!

BON Oct 16, 2005 8:17 pm

What do you expect them to do? Assuming you were in Y, it is rather uncomfortable eating with the seat in front of you reclined. Perhaps, you can be a little more considerate to other pax.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 16, 2005 8:35 pm

Fairly standard practice in most airlines in my experience. If you want to be able to recline during meal service fly in business or first. Otherwise try to sleep upright.

fimo Oct 16, 2005 8:43 pm

That's standard practice, during meal service you are asked to 'de-recline' if the pax behind you is taking a meal. If you want to sleep undisturbed so that you can start work immediate on landing, you can fly J/F or request the last row in each cabin.

Easy.

fly4fun Oct 16, 2005 9:19 pm

fimo, Kiwi Flyer, you forget that some companies are cutting costs while still requiring staff to travel overnight and be fresh the following morning. Hence, it is not always up the the pax to chose the class of travel.

In all honesty, the OP has a very valid point - the flight attendants should kindly remind the pax about the non-recline during meal service and even offer to recline seat when meal service ends... Having said that, i must admit is a wishful thinking as it does not happen in reality.

fimo Oct 16, 2005 9:25 pm

As I said - if sleep is essential then request for a last row seat in the Y cabins. That's the best solution and it's hell lot easier than to have to unrecline and rerecline etc.

Kiwi Flyer Oct 16, 2005 9:27 pm

I'm not forgetting - I do travel in all classes (well perhaps not F as much as I'd like).

My point, perhaps not made clearly, is that some folk seem to believe they have a right to recline and how dare they be disturbed or made to sit upright. Note I'm not getting at the OP here - this subject has come up many times before. I'm in the camp of being considerate to fellow pax as much as practical, and wanted to point out there are choices to avoid being woken up.

I'm sure many disagree with me.

fly4fun Oct 16, 2005 10:07 pm

Agreed ;)

jjpb3 Oct 16, 2005 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by cathayboy
Hi does any body know the SQ policy on waking up passengers to put the seat up so the person behind can eat their meal in comfort?

Maybe because they think you would appreciate the policy if you were the one trying to eat your meal in comfort.

I'm with fimo and Kiwi Flyer as well on this point. In cramped Y seating, the extra space matters a lot during mealtimes, IMO.

goingsomewhere Oct 16, 2005 10:41 pm

It is fairly standard on most carriers.

How can you expect people to eat if some can't even get the tray down?

How about sleeping in the upright position? This way you can sleep, and no one is going to wake you up to ask you pull up your seat. @:-)

UnitedTaiwan Oct 17, 2005 2:02 am

there really is NO WAY a medium built person can eat with the seat up front reclined fully. I've seen many people get awaken because of this but I agree we all really need to be considerate to the others, or fly in the last row or something... especially since SQ has opened up on line seat selection.

ph-ndr Oct 17, 2005 12:14 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer
I'm not forgetting - I do travel in all classes (well perhaps not F as much as I'd like).

My point, perhaps not made clearly, is that some folk seem to believe they have a right to recline and how dare they be disturbed or made to sit upright. Note I'm not getting at the OP here - this subject has come up many times before. I'm in the camp of being considerate to fellow pax as much as practical, and wanted to point out there are choices to avoid being woken up.

I'm sure many disagree with me.

I agree and i disagree. If you want to be picky, to what extent do the airlines sell ou the personal space around you, and to what extent do they actually legally limit this during the sale. After all it is in vougue these days that al things are sold as specificied, no frills, etc.

Then there's the opposing view,if the airline actualy sold this feature to you, shouldnt they also actually make it usable so that you can doze off in comfort? I for my part find anything back there bad for anything requiring doing off, and being my own CEO (and also delivery boy, being a one man show) I have authorized myself unlimited C-class as long as the trip makes enough money to pay for it.

Also to fan the flames and fuel the party: what do people think of this annoying wedges to stick into the chair in front to limit their recline? I say burn the users of such devices. :)

fimo Oct 17, 2005 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by ph-ndr
Then there's the opposing view,if the airline actualy sold this feature to you, shouldnt they also actually make it usable so that you can doze off in comfort?

Well you don't get to recline or leave your tray table unstowed during take off and landings so clearly there are accepted boundaries to the use of such 'features.' Meal service just happens to be another such situation where it is pretty well established that you don't get to recline if the passenger behind you is taking a meal.

I'd dearly love it if nobody ever reclines into me in Y, but I accept that as part and parcel of cattle class travel and thank my lucky stars I'm not 6 feet tall.

OGY Oct 17, 2005 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by ph-ndr
Also to fan the flames and fuel the party: what do people think of this annoying wedges to stick into the chair in front to limit their recline? I say burn the users of such devices. :)

Hi ph-ndr, can you explain more about this? Is this some kind of device or something else?

Diamond Seats Oct 17, 2005 8:59 pm


Originally Posted by OGY
Hi ph-ndr, can you explain more about this? Is this some kind of device or something else?

I think it's a device to stop the seat in front of you to recline further.


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