What are loads like around Easter?

Old Nov 19, 04, 7:58 pm
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What are loads like around Easter?

Stopped by a travel agent today and asked about a BHX-TYO tkt in april in Biz.
Was expecting to hear a price of around 1500 pounds for AF/KL or OS/LH or a consolidator special with AI/SU nearer the 1000 mark. The guy came up with a price of less than 800 all in on SQ!!!!
I haven't snapped it up yet as the trip isn't 100% confirmed yet, I happen to hate LHR and, as a soon-to-be-gold with OK, I'd rather fly Skyteam than *A but my questions for you SQ FFs would be:

1) How come they're so cheap? Can one score such fares often if using the right agent/consolidator? Are loads that low during April?

2) Do all biz fares earn full business class miles on any * FFP?
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Old Nov 19, 04, 9:08 pm
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BHX-TYO on SQ for GBP 800 is DEFINITELY not in Business Class. I'd ask what the booking class is on SQ before I get all excited about this. Considering the LHR-SIN-LHR sector alone is about GBP500+ return in economy! Especially around Easter.

Unless you're on either C, Z or D class , you'd not in Business Class.
Should the above be in economy class, I'd still ask them what the booking class is as some economy class tickets do not earn any miles.

Great fares can be had in England not by the 'right' consolidator, but rather by how much of a volume in sales they do with SQ. The larger the consolidator, so the larger sales volume they would do with the airlines. Hence the large consolidators would have the best fares. ie Trailfinders, Travelmood etc. You might find specialised agencies that specifically sell volume tickets on certain airlines only... but chances are these are mainly for economy class fares.

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Old Nov 20, 04, 4:55 am
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
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BHX-TYO on SQ for GBP 800 is DEFINITELY not in Business Class. I'd ask what the booking class is on SQ before I get all excited about this. Considering the LHR-SIN-LHR sector alone is about GBP500+ return in economy! Especially around Easter.

It was as much a surprise to me as it is to you, therefore I asked him about 3-4 times, and he was positive it was in biz (didn't ask for the booking class tho). Forgot to clarify that it indeed starts from LHR (hence my comments about that beloved airport of mine). I also believe there are quite a few fare restrictions.

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Should the above be in economy class, I'd still ask them what the booking class is as some economy class tickets do not earn any miles.
I wouldn't fly a non-skyteam airline from LON ever unless it was the only option or cheaper than competitors by at least 30%. The guy was adamant it was business class.

Incidentally do all three booking classes in business earn the same amount of miles?
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Old Nov 20, 04, 5:21 am
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Sq do have some weird fares. On the UK website, they have a special deal of 555 to SIN, but right below it 445 all the way to Perth. Crazy.

Yep, all Business booking classes earn the same miles. Although your not gonna be on business and the travel agent will have made a mistake. I think this is much mroe likely than SQ selling J seats for Y prices.
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I'd check the 'biz' fares first.

FYI - Biz fares on SQ to SIN return are around GBP 2000! So I'd like to know what airline you're flying for GBP 800 to Tokyo! I highly doubt that it will be on SQ. If it is, then you've found the best deal of the century!

Yes if it's full business class fare, you'll earn full mileage on them.
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Old Nov 20, 04, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
I'd like to know what airline you're flying for GBP 800 to Tokyo! I highly doubt that it will be on SQ. If it is, then you've found the best deal of the century!.
Well, I certainly did not ask for SQ! He came up with it contrary to what I had initally asked (Skyteam ex-BHX as opposed to *A ex-LON), but I guess the price was a tad too good for me to complain! As I said I don't absolutely have to go and I haven't bought it *yet*, so confirmation won't be forthcoming until when/if I do buy it!
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Well, perhaps if you reword it... " Can you tell me the best fare you have from BHX to TYO around Easter?" Do not specify airline. Do not specify class.

You'd find the same GBP 800 fare come up.

Sometimes agents are so keen on selling, that they're just say yes to everything even before they fully understand the question. Business class = Oh, you're a businessman and you want to go to Tokyo?

Think "Goodness Gracious Me"!
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LOL! The guy (Indian chap in his 30s, operating out of a container as the proper office had temporarily closed, and clearly over-dressed, looked a bit like a drug dealer) did know what he was doing and I heard him specifying business class (as well as the fact that I didn't mind restrictions).

Come to think of it, the problem could've been at the other end of the line. BTW, guess what: Cheapest economy class BHX-NRT on expedia for the dates specified is at 802 (this includes their fiver "robbery fee")!

However things get even more complicated since they found me an ex-LON flight anyway, and there's a published (eco) LON-NRT fare on OS that costs well under 600 quid available for the same dates, so it wouldn't have made much sense for them to quote a consolidated economy fare that'd be 30% more expensive!
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