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First time SQ, First time F: LHR-SIN-HKG r/t

First time SQ, First time F: LHR-SIN-HKG r/t

Old Oct 16, 04, 7:06 am
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First time SQ, First time F: LHR-SIN-HKG r/t

Hello,

I have an upcoming award flight on SQ, which will be both my first time on the airline and my first time in long-haul F. My excitement grows on a daily basis The return is in J.

I've searched on this forum, and can see the seat recommendations etc. If you can indulge me for a short while, though, I do have a couple of questions.

- How is the LHR lounge? As a *G, is it the best place for me, or am I better off with one of the other *A lounges (The London Lounge, for example).

- I understand the LHR-SIN legs will be in the 'Megatop' aircraft. I can see plenty seat tips for these (although, to be frank, from the looks of the cabin, I'm really not going to care where I sit). Are SQ receptive to seat requests for award passengers?

- The SIN-HKG legs are on SQ868 (a 772) and SQ1 (a 744). What kind of seats do these have in F and J respectively? All I could see was that 'some' HKG services are of one type, and some of another.

- I've never been to SIN before. My transit times are pretty short (1h and 55mins respectively). Is an SQ-SQ transfer easy? Will I have time for a short lounge visit/coffee/cigarette?

- HKG lounge tips are good too

- Any general tips for making the most of the F legs would also be very welcome. I'm a non-drinker, so the fine wines and champagnes will sadly not be part of it...

- Oh, and the tickets are showing 'O' class outbound, which, from the *A forum here, is the award bucket for F. checkmytrip.com show it as 'economy', however. Please reassure me that this is a simple misinterpretation of 'O' as 'Economy' on checkmytrip's part

Many thanks.

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Old Oct 16, 04, 8:08 am
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Oh dear - after this trip you will be spoiled

Will try to help where I can.

F on 747 - depends if you are single or couple (middle seats best). Yes can request seats even on award.

F on 777 - seat is quite a step down from the suite on 747 but comfy enough.
J on 747 - most likely spacebed (do a search and will get plenty of reviews).
Yes SQ-SQ transit at SIN is easy. If on time then certainly a just for a brief lounge visit (J lounge is good and F really excellent). However if the long sector from LHR is running late and HKG flight is from a gate far away then may not have time. I think the lounge has a smoking area (not sure as non-smoker).

www.singaporeair.com shows the amenities - small kit (+ pjs) in F but not in J, can request postcards, playing cards, stationery, etc.
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Old Oct 16, 04, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by stut
- I've never been to SIN before. My transit times are pretty short (1h and 55mins respectively). Is an SQ-SQ transfer easy? Will I have time for a short lounge visit/coffee/cigarette?
1h55m is ample time to use the lounge including taking a shower. As for a nicotine dose, why not use chewing gum with nicotine? It makes long-haul travel more comfortable for nicotine addicts.
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Old Oct 16, 04, 8:38 am
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zvezda - I think stut meant in one direction the transit is 1hr, and in the other it is 55 minutes. At least that's what I interpreted as in giving my answers.
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Old Oct 16, 04, 9:05 am
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Welcome to the SQ board stut .

The SQ lounge at LHR is excellent, particularly as you will have access to the F side. The Raffles/C side does have an upper level however. There is a small bar menu from which you can order various snacks like Satay etc. There is some building work going on nearby, which is preparation for SQ's (and others) A380's and as a result the SQ a/c is not currently using the nearby gates like it usually does. The work is scheduled to finish early November.

SIN is one of the best airports in the world for transferring but 1h out and 55 mins coming back (if I've read it correct) is tight and your flights will probably be already showing as boarding on the screens. To be honest even with an hour I would try and nip in for a glass of Krug myself ( ), and if you get in early it would defintely be a shame not to sample the SKL's in SIN as they are excellent.

Outbound you will have access to the F side of the SKL but just the Raffles side inbound. I think there may be a smoking area in the lounges but if not there is a public one on the lower lever not far from the escalators to the lounges.

There is an SKL in HKG with both an F and Raffles side but unfortunately it's nothing to write home about. It has no windows for a start which is one of my own pet hates. There is a TG lounge that is supposed to be OK but someone else may be able to give you more info on this as I haven't used it. Presume there is a RCC as well ?

However, when I was flying to SFO on SQ in July I used my KL PE card to use the BA/QF lounge at HKG, which is the one KL use and this was much nicer than the SKL IMHO.

Would be very interested to hear what you think of SQ and SIN etc.

Enjoy the experience ^
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Old Oct 16, 04, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by MAN Flyer
your flights will probably be already showing as boarding on the screens.
Flights from SIN are called annoyingly early, even the "Final Call" is complete b##locks. My personal rule of thumb is not to leave the lounge unless my flight is within 3 flights on the screen of the first "Closed" flight ... and even then maybe wait a few minutes if I know the gate is close. I have never missed a flight from SIN yet (or been paged for being late).
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All,

Many thanks for all the replies. Yes, I am worried about getting spoilt by this - it was bad enough after the first time I flew long-haul J... But, well, this is a treat for myself after a year of ridiculous work and recovery from surgery, and the BD redemption rate on this was stunning value, so I thought: why on earth not?

Kiwi Flyer is indeed correct that I meant 1hr on the outbound and 55mins back, which is not a great deal of time. I can only hope that there are favourable winds... And thanks for the tip on boarding calls: I'll treat it as I treat AMS as far as boarding goes. And yes, I do always take nicotine gum when I fly long-haul, which is good, as each time I do, I get that one step closer to giving up for good. As a Gauloise smoker, though, it doesn't compensate for the lung rush...

I will be on my own, so, will be trying for the single seats. I'll give SQ London a call.

MAN Flyer - was July the last time you were able to use the KLPE card for the BA lounge at HKG? I am a big fan of BA lounges, so would love to go in, but looking over on the KL boards, it seems that the 'global access' for PE has now been downgraded to the handful of KL-operated lounges only. [Further edit] Oh, looking at the KL website, they now appear to use the AF lounge at HKG. I think I'm probably best off heading for SQ.

I will absolutely be doing a trip report on this one (although you'll have to forgive me if it's light on wine details). And hopefully will be back on this board soon, if we get those contracts in Asia that are looking hopeful at the moment...

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You will be allowed access to the TG lounge in HKG - it has decent food (fresh fruits, dim sum, nice bonbons). The RCC next door has great showers with amenity kits. The SQ lounge is inferior to these although not that bad. Try several!

Enjoy your F flight - I've got my first F flight on SQ coming up next month so I share your excitement ^
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Views from the UA RCC and TG lounge are excellent. worth a visit if you have the time.
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Old Oct 16, 04, 9:54 pm
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if you are flying out of HKG on SQ1, the UA,TG and AF lounges are at the far side of the airport - and SQ 1 always leaves out of the gates close to the SQ lounge. the biz sections of the UA and TG lounges are not worth the effort to go to the other end of the airport, especially early in the morning when SQ 1 departs.

there are smoking rooms in the J and F sections of the SQ lounge at SIN.
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As I have posted elsewhere, I did the LHR-SIN-HKG route back in August. I used Aeroplan miles and got a SQ F ticket to HKG; my return is on NH NRT-LHR in F in January.

As my luck would have it, I had the entire First cabin to myself. I was surprised as I saw about 7 additional people in the Lounge and thought that some of them would be in F with me. J and Y were full. The SQ Lounge was nice -- it had a nice self serve bar area, dining area, good seating, 2-3 computers with decent Internet service, a quiet area with 2 reclining chairs for rest; and a small menu for food which you can order from the attendant. The congee and the noodles were quite good.

The decor is bright and airy and quite relaxing. Situated by Gate 6, our flight left out of Gate 40 so it was a LONG trek to the other side of T3. As I got to the Gate, the flight was starting boarding but the ground crew gave me priority boarding and escorted me to the door of the airplane.

Service was impeccable!! And most certainly not robotic!! With 3 attendants for only myself, I have been irrevocably spoiled. The Sky Suites are classy and VERY comfortable. Received Bulgari amenity kit which included a small bottle of the Bvlgari BLV for men (quite generous!!). Menu's came in a nice folder though they tried to take these back. I asked if I could keep mine and they said yes. The pyjama's are a horrid puke pink and huge, but did the trick for 6 hours of great sleep. The FA set up the bed for me while I had some Jasmine tea in a neighbouring SkySuite.

The food was awesome; I particularly enjoyed the satay. I "Booked The Cook" and had the Lobster Thermidor (thanks flamboyant1 for the recommendation) and was surprised at HOW tasty it was. Either that or my time in London has dulled my tastebuds!! I have a picture of it I can e-mail to anyone who is interested. PM me. Everything was outstanding.

In every respect, SQ First has outdone BA First, from IFE, service, food, beverage (the Blue Mountain coffee is heavenly -- now I am searching for the stuff!!), seat comfort and cabin elegance, SQ is far superior. The only redeeming feature for BA is the Concorde Room.

Being my birthday the crew gave me a hand made card signed by ALL crew, except for the cockpit crew, some chocolates, and my choice of a bottle of Dom or Krug!! Surprisingly enough I did not tell them that it was my birthday.

Upon disembarkation at Changi 2 jetways were used. The crew held back J and Y pax on the jetway until I had made it almost to the terminal. My connection time was tight too; however, while I did not go to the SKL at SIN, I had enough time to do considerable damage to my credit cards in Duty Free shopping. As I got to my gate I was able to board directly onto the 777 for HKG.

The 777, 3 class config, was quite a downgrade from the SkySuites. The seat was comfy (reminded me of United Int'l J) but the service was wonderful. I had "Booked The Cook" again and had the Nasi Biryani -- the 8:00ish flight was labelled as a Brunch flight so the entire BTC range was available. The Nasi Biryani was excellent; the chicken very tender.

In HKG, the first suitcase which came out was mine; however, the other one took some time as the special F tag had fallen off.

In all two great flights and I am sure you will enjoy yours. You will be spoiled for sure.

Edited to add: I subsequently flew HKG-YVR on AC J and it was a tough flight, despite the many improvements AC have made to their J service. The LHR-SIN flight was my BEST flight ever thus far........ pleasantly corrupted forever!!

Last edited by luxury; Oct 17, 04 at 12:14 pm Reason: To re-iterate the LHR-SIN leg was THE BEST flight I have taken
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Being my birthday the crew gave me a hand made card signed by ALL crew, except for the cockpit crew, some chocolates, and my choice of a bottle of Dom or Krug!! Surprisingly enough I did not tell them that it was my birthday.

Nice ^
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Originally Posted by stut

MAN Flyer - was July the last time you were able to use the KLPE card for the BA lounge at HKG? I am a big fan of BA lounges, so would love to go in, but looking over on the KL boards, it seems that the 'global access' for PE has now been downgraded to the handful of KL-operated lounges only. [Further edit] Oh, looking at the KL website, they now appear to use the AF lounge at HKG. I think I'm probably best off heading for SQ.
Yes, July was the last (and only) time I've used the PE card to use the KL (QF/BA) lounge when on SQ. Regardless of changing to the AF lounge I also fear you may not be able to do that now. I'll resist the chance to get all 'Steve' about KL on the SQ board though .

I agree with Kiwi Flyer's comment about the flight information boards getting 'excited' a bit early at SIN. If you are on time I would definitely pop in to the SKL, I've done it numerous times with under an hour connection time.

Good luck with the contracts for the 'SQ region' .
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If you are on time I would definitely pop in to the SKL, I've done it numerous times with under an hour connection time.
Agree. For my SIN-EWR I arrived less than an hour before departure due to delayed connecting flight, but still had just enough time to visit SKL, have a quick shower and slug down a drink before hoofing it for the gate. I was one of the last (if not the last) to board though
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I gather you are on SQ321 before the end of this month (reason: beginning on Oct 31, you can not take this flight to connect directly to HKG because of the ending of DST.) Since you are in F for this outbound flight, why not make th emost of yor award ticket, like making a stopover in Singapore? Or else, just stay less than 24 hours by taking the next day flight SQ2 to HKG. Enjoy the evening in Singapore, and the next day to relax. Then you can use the personalized ground service for F pax at Changi. Then you can enjoy the F lounge.
Just a thought..
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