Why are all the Perth-Singapore flights at such terrible times?
Feb 5, 2023, 1:38 pm
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Why are all the Perth-Singapore flights at such terrible times?
This is more a gripe than a rant, but why are all the flights from Perth to Singapore at such terrible hours? One departs at 6:25 a.m., another lands at 10:35 p.m., and the third is a red-eye. Three flights a day, and yet not one at a decent hour!
SQ216 0110–0635
SQ224 0625–1145
SQ214 1710–2235
Obviously, this is crystal-ball territory, but any chance SQ might introduce a nice daytime flight?
SQ216 0110–0635
SQ224 0625–1145
SQ214 1710–2235
Obviously, this is crystal-ball territory, but any chance SQ might introduce a nice daytime flight?
Feb 5, 2023, 8:23 pm
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Presumably as they offer the most convenient connections . Although a fourth service - afternoon service, would connect well to India and west coast of the US, you'd think there'd be sufficient Perth/India demand to support this. Was the the fourth flight pre-COVID?
To have such a f flight to connect to US/India, you'd need a service that did PER-SIN 1225/1745 (to connect to the 1845 BOM flight), which would mean a 0600/1110 SIN-PER service.
To have such a f flight to connect to US/India, you'd need a service that did PER-SIN 1225/1745 (to connect to the 1845 BOM flight), which would mean a 0600/1110 SIN-PER service.
Feb 5, 2023, 8:45 pm
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This is more a gripe than a rant, but why are all the flights from Perth to Singapore at such terrible hours? One departs at 6:25 a.m., another lands at 10:35 p.m., and the third is a red-eye. Three flights a day, and yet not one at a decent hour!
SQ216 0110–0635
SQ224 0625–1145
SQ214 1710–2235
Obviously, this is crystal-ball territory, but any chance SQ might introduce a nice daytime flight?
SQ216 0110–0635
SQ224 0625–1145
SQ214 1710–2235
Obviously, this is crystal-ball territory, but any chance SQ might introduce a nice daytime flight?
Feb 5, 2023, 9:19 pm
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We once took that SQ216 flight to connect onwards to TPE and then to Canada. Stayed at the hotel as late as we could (6pm) and then headed to airport. Nothing really to do but sit on a plastic seat waiting hours and hours for SQ to open check in. It felt like sitting in a bus station waiting area.
Last edited by lokijuh; Feb 5, 2023 at 10:39 pm
Feb 5, 2023, 9:55 pm
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This is more a gripe than a rant, but why are all the flights from Perth to Singapore at such terrible hours? One departs at 6:25 a.m., another lands at 10:35 p.m., and the third is a red-eye. Three flights a day, and yet not one at a decent hour!
SQ216 0110–0635
SQ224 0625–1145
SQ214 1710–2235
Obviously, this is crystal-ball territory, but any chance SQ might introduce a nice daytime flight?
SQ216 0110–0635
SQ224 0625–1145
SQ214 1710–2235
Obviously, this is crystal-ball territory, but any chance SQ might introduce a nice daytime flight?
I am a bit confused. Why are those not decent hours?
Feb 6, 2023, 6:48 am
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grass is always greener on other side.. We hk residents envy you singaporians with airlines that actually fly and govt that allows international travel... oops hk opened up and lucky to have 1 flight to perth every 2wk....
those are just fine hours.
those are just fine hours.
Feb 6, 2023, 9:46 am
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Well, at the risk of stating the obvious, a 6:25 a.m. departure means waking up at an ungodly hour, a 10:35 p.m. is fine for European connections, but I dislike arrive at a final destination late at night, and the red-eye flight is too short to get any real sleep. From my perspective, at least, a mid-morning departure would be nice. At any rate, planning a trip in September, I think I am resigned to the red-eye as the least of three evils.
Feb 6, 2023, 10:03 am
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I think those timings are fine. Anything later during the day would mean you lose at least half a day when flying. The red eye is super convenient in a way, you leave late night and arrive early morning. Even the 6 AM SIN departure is not bad, given that you reach Perth late morning/early afternoon making it easy to check in to hotels (usually check in starts 11 AM)
Feb 6, 2023, 10:39 am
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To be honest, that's probably on you not the airline though, as long as they publish what time check in opens. I usually find something to do to avoid hitting the airport before checkin opens. I've taken heaps of midnight flights from various places and almost always means checking out earlier and leaving bags at hotel, doing something in the afternoon (or spending all day in meetings) , having dinner and then collecting bags and going to airport once checkin opens.
Feb 6, 2023, 12:26 pm
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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...rom-june-2020/
Well, at the risk of stating the obvious, a 6:25 a.m. departure means waking up at an ungodly hour, a 10:35 p.m. is fine for European connections, but I dislike arrive at a final destination late at night, and the red-eye flight is too short to get any real sleep. From my perspective, at least, a mid-morning departure would be nice. At any rate, planning a trip in September, I think I am resigned to the red-eye as the least of three evils.
In order to have a midmorning departure out of PER, they'd have to sacrifice the connecting potential of SQ224, or schedule an even later redeye out of SIN, which some people wouldn't be a fan of.
There's a decent chance the 4th daily will return this year. It gets into SIN around dinnertime, which works nicely for many.
Feb 6, 2023, 3:29 pm
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For me, SQ214 1710–2235 would be ideal. Leave at a time to get a decent dinner service on the flight, arrive late enough to beat jet lag in SIN (but not so late that it's going to be a ghost town when I get to the hotel).
But as others have noted, in choosing flight times they are trying to optimise multiple factors including connecting flights and turnaround time for aircraft and crew at PER, so most flights end up undesirable in some regard to some passengers.
But as others have noted, in choosing flight times they are trying to optimise multiple factors including connecting flights and turnaround time for aircraft and crew at PER, so most flights end up undesirable in some regard to some passengers.
Feb 6, 2023, 4:23 pm
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I doubt jetlag is an issue for most people on PER-SIN.
