SQ Stewardesses No Longer Forced to Leave after Giving Birth
Oct 10, 2022, 9:15 pm
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SQ Stewardesses No Longer Forced to Leave after Giving Birth
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...nding-practice
Was quite shocked to read that such a discriminatory policy was there in the first place, and that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) in Singapore appears to have been complicit with it - any other commercial entity with such a policy would have never gotten away with it as it is in breach of the law. More surprisingly, at least 2 members of the Board of Directors of SIA are women and they appear to have done nothing to have such an archaic practice repealed!
Was quite shocked to read that such a discriminatory policy was there in the first place, and that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) in Singapore appears to have been complicit with it - any other commercial entity with such a policy would have never gotten away with it as it is in breach of the law. More surprisingly, at least 2 members of the Board of Directors of SIA are women and they appear to have done nothing to have such an archaic practice repealed!
Oct 10, 2022, 10:30 pm
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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...nding-practice
Was quite shocked to read that such a discriminatory policy was there in the first place, and that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) in Singapore appears to have been complicit with it - any other commercial entity with such a policy would have never gotten away with it as it is in breach of the law. More surprisingly, at least 2 members of the Board of Directors of SIA are women and they appear to have done nothing to have such an archaic practice repealed!
Was quite shocked to read that such a discriminatory policy was there in the first place, and that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) in Singapore appears to have been complicit with it - any other commercial entity with such a policy would have never gotten away with it as it is in breach of the law. More surprisingly, at least 2 members of the Board of Directors of SIA are women and they appear to have done nothing to have such an archaic practice repealed!
Oct 10, 2022, 10:53 pm
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I wonder how SQ managed to get away with it for so long? I've always been informed that employment terms in Singapore is purely a "contractual relationship" between employer and employee. But surely if a term contradicts employment law, it's null and void? Interested in the thoughts of people here with knowledge of Singapore employment law, who can credibly advise.
Oct 11, 2022, 5:49 am
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I wonder how SQ managed to get away with it for so long? I've always been informed that employment terms in Singapore is purely a "contractual relationship" between employer and employee. But surely if a term contradicts employment law, it's null and void? Interested in the thoughts of people here with knowledge of Singapore employment law, who can credibly advise.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...nding-practice
Was quite shocked to read that such a discriminatory policy was there in the first place, and that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) in Singapore appears to have been complicit with it - any other commercial entity with such a policy would have never gotten away with it as it is in breach of the law. More surprisingly, at least 2 members of the Board of Directors of SIA are women and they appear to have done nothing to have such an archaic practice repealed!
Was quite shocked to read that such a discriminatory policy was there in the first place, and that the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) in Singapore appears to have been complicit with it - any other commercial entity with such a policy would have never gotten away with it as it is in breach of the law. More surprisingly, at least 2 members of the Board of Directors of SIA are women and they appear to have done nothing to have such an archaic practice repealed!
Oct 11, 2022, 6:21 am
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Hopefully all Asian carriers will follow the West's lead so their staff will be as happy and pleasant as those in the US, and we, their passengers can finally enjoy the level of service provided by AA, United, and Delta, when flying that "archaic" Asian carrier.
Last edited by Ghoulish; Oct 11, 2022 at 7:04 am
Oct 11, 2022, 6:59 am
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Terminating, and then having to replace an employee is a very costly process.
Thankfully, staff shortages have forced SQ to reconsider the outdated notion that an infant raised by its mother rather than in the loving arms of strangers is better for the child and society as a whole.
Once again, we can rely on the drive for
profits taking society to its best and highest place.
Thankfully, staff shortages have forced SQ to reconsider the outdated notion that an infant raised by its mother rather than in the loving arms of strangers is better for the child and society as a whole.
Once again, we can rely on the drive for
profits taking society to its best and highest place.
Oct 11, 2022, 8:21 am
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A quick peek at the stockholding structure of Singapore Airlines will tell you why. All of the Asian carriers in general don't have good(for staff) terms and conditions when compared to American and European carriers, for example, AA's first class have been nicknamed staff travel class while non of the Asian airlines have similar nicknames.
Oct 11, 2022, 8:34 am
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That may very well be the case, but irrespective of whatever T&Cs a company insists on, if they are illegal / breaking the law, I very much doubt they will stand if tested in court. It really is very alarming that the MOM (and by deduction, the government) have been aware of this practice and kept schtum about it.
The absence of any legal action against a well heeled and highly visible (therefore vulnerable) company's is tacit acknowledgement they're clearly not doing anything illegal.
Again, this costly and damaging to the bottom line policy was not motivated by typical corporate greed, but the values the male and female board directors chose to imbue the company with.
Then the subject of this awful, unfair, unjust company returned to this terrible employer, under the same terms, and violated them yet again.
A sympathetic and deceptive media aligned with a tiny minority of vocal activists seeking to undermine the values that most Singaporeans value acting as a vector to infect that well functioning society with the west's disease of wokeness.
Oct 11, 2022, 10:14 am
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That may very well be the case, but irrespective of whatever T&Cs a company insists on, if they are illegal / breaking the law, I very much doubt they will stand if tested in court. It really is very alarming that the MOM (and by deduction, the government) have been aware of this practice and kept schtum about it.
Oct 11, 2022, 10:53 am
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Oct 11, 2022, 3:32 pm
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Oct 11, 2022, 4:35 pm
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Equally shocking is your use of the term "stewardess". If you are referencing someone else's use of the term, perhaps the use of quotation marks would have stopped me from replying. YMMV...lol
Last edited by Bradhattan; Oct 11, 2022 at 4:36 pm Reason: add quotation marks