possibly missing connection at JFK due to weather
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possibly missing connection at JFK due to weather
Booked BOS=>JFK=>SIN in biz, through SQ, ticketed by SQ.
A friend booked this exact itinerary a month ago and the BOS=>JFK flight (on Jetblue) was delayed and she missed the connection. The flights are very full these days so she had to wait 2 days to fly and she had to move back to economy.
Our flight is coming up and weather is looking bad, and with all the operational issues Jetblue and others have had, we called SQ to suggest we move the BOS=>JFK flight earlier.
Agent: "Great, I can do that. It will cost $6000"
Us: "Really? What happens if we miss the flight?"
Agent: "There will be a no show charge"
Us: "Really?"
Agent: "Yes"
Us: "Does that make sense?"
...
The JFK=>SIN flight in biz appears full for next couple days. We very much do not want to miss our connection.
Has anyone successfully proactively de-risked a situation like this?
A friend booked this exact itinerary a month ago and the BOS=>JFK flight (on Jetblue) was delayed and she missed the connection. The flights are very full these days so she had to wait 2 days to fly and she had to move back to economy.
Our flight is coming up and weather is looking bad, and with all the operational issues Jetblue and others have had, we called SQ to suggest we move the BOS=>JFK flight earlier.
Agent: "Great, I can do that. It will cost $6000"
Us: "Really? What happens if we miss the flight?"
Agent: "There will be a no show charge"
Us: "Really?"
Agent: "Yes"
Us: "Does that make sense?"
...
The JFK=>SIN flight in biz appears full for next couple days. We very much do not want to miss our connection.
Has anyone successfully proactively de-risked a situation like this?
- It appears we can do a same day change on Jetblue for $75 per person but we are afraid the res gets unlinked and our bags won't be checked through.
- We can drive to JFK, but if we don't show for the Jetblue flight we are afraid we will lose our booking on the SQ flight. And if we call to change that, it will trigger another $6000.
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DO NOT skip the BOS-JFK first segment, as it will result in cancellation of subsequent JFK-SIN segment!
The (much) higher fare that you’re quoted is because it’s much closer to departure, and the lower fare class that you had originally booked on is no longer available. Thus the change of BOS-JFK segment timing requires repricing of entire BOS-JFK-SIN at currently available fare class.
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Assuming that this is all on one ticket and you're on the BOS-JFK, if you miss the SQ connection at JFK through no fault of your own, you can't be charged a no show fee. The airline would be obligated to rebook you for free (into any available seat in your cabin or below, not just award inventory), although space can be a big problem.
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The (much) higher fare that you’re quoted is because it’s much closer to departure, and the lower fare class that you had originally booked on is no longer available. Thus the change of BOS-JFK segment timing requires repricing of entire BOS-JFK-SIN at currently available fare class.
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Assuming that this is all on one ticket and you're on the BOS-JFK, if you miss the SQ connection at JFK through no fault of your own, you can't be charged a no show fee. The airline would be obligated to rebook you for free (into any available seat in your cabin or below, not just award inventory), although space can be a big problem.
But, we'd be on the hook for hotel and lose 2+ days given the flights are full. AND possibly end up in economy. Joy.
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I've had to do many Eastern seaboard connections to SQ at JFK/EWR (but not from locations that SQ sells a connecting flight so I buy my own). It's never ideal but I always give myself a wide berth for the connection...for JFK I usually fly mid morning to arrive around noon-1pm. Last time I got a day room at the TWA Hotel. If you can change the JBU flight for $75 and have the day to spare, I would do that and just pick up your bags at JFK and recheck them for the SQ flight.
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I've had to do many Eastern seaboard connections to SQ at JFK/EWR (but not from locations that SQ sells a connecting flight so I buy my own). It's never ideal but I always give myself a wide berth for the connection...for JFK I usually fly mid morning to arrive around noon-1pm. Last time I got a day room at the TWA Hotel. If you can change the JBU flight for $75 and have the day to spare, I would do that and just pick up your bags at JFK and recheck them for the SQ flight.
I think we will now try the Jetblue same day change. Just scared it will unlink our res and cancel our SQ res.
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Leaving early morning before the weather, and booking TWA hotel to work through the day, was the exact original plan. Until they wanted to charge us $6k for the change
I think we will now try the Jetblue same day change. Just scared it will unlink our res and cancel our SQ res.
I think we will now try the Jetblue same day change. Just scared it will unlink our res and cancel our SQ res.
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The no show fee comment was so ridiculous, even after clarifying it would be no fault of our own and this was ticketed and booked through SQ. We figured she just didn't know what she was talking about.
But, we'd be on the hook for hotel and lose 2+ days given the flights are full. AND possibly end up in economy. Joy.
But, we'd be on the hook for hotel and lose 2+ days given the flights are full. AND possibly end up in economy. Joy.
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SQ are pretty good at making sure passengers catch the flight if there's an issue. My flight out of CDG was delayed by 1 hr the other day because of long lines at the security checks, and my connecting flight in SIN was pushed back by 2 hours to accommodate passengers on a late-running flight out of LHR.
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SQ are pretty good at making sure passengers catch the flight if there's an issue. My flight out of CDG was delayed by 1 hr the other day because of long lines at the security checks, and my connecting flight in SIN was pushed back by 2 hours to accommodate passengers on a late-running flight out of LHR.
OP's situation is different, it's another airline connecting to SQ. Don't think SQ has ability to control late arrival of third party airline, and manage its own departure in light of - even if they are all on one PNR.
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I'm perhaps willing to start in BOS and maybe do a new routing from there, if it's clear we're going to miss it... but a big part of doing this route was minimize the domestic and have the bulk of it in SQ biz.
If we've made it to JFK I don't think I want to risk another connection!
Thanks for the suggestion
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BTW, it was my other half calling SQ, and she just told me the extra 6k was indeed a full repricing. It would move BOS=>JFK up but put us in JFK=>SIN in economy light! From biz. *shock*
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Oh man... hopefully it doesn't come to this!
I'm perhaps willing to start in BOS and maybe do a new routing from there, if it's clear we're going to miss it... but a big part of doing this route was minimize the domestic and have the bulk of it in SQ biz.
If we've made it to JFK I don't think I want to risk another connection!
Thanks for the suggestion
I'm perhaps willing to start in BOS and maybe do a new routing from there, if it's clear we're going to miss it... but a big part of doing this route was minimize the domestic and have the bulk of it in SQ biz.
If we've made it to JFK I don't think I want to risk another connection!
Thanks for the suggestion