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Sandeep1 Jan 26, 2020 3:02 am

Terrible Flight - Compensation offered is a joke
 
I redeemed a large chunk of miles for a first class flight from LAX to SIN. The LAX-NRT leg was laughably bad. Power went out somewhere in the first half of the flight. I woke up to a child playing her private iPad loudly and when I asked the FAs what the heck was going on, they said the IFE was out due to a power failure. Seats wouldn't recline either obviously as the power buttons were out. No running water in the bathroom. The power never came back during the flight so I was basically staring out my window waiting to land (5 hours or so).

Here is the kicker.. I was given vouchers worth 400 SGD that can be used on Krisflyer shopping catalogue. After leaving the plane, I was handed a letter of apology and a "gift" as an apology. That gift was a universal charger.

Nice try Singapore, nice try.

bagold Jan 26, 2020 3:27 am


Originally Posted by Sandeep1 (Post 31995622)
I redeemed a large chunk of miles for a first class flight from LAX to SIN. The LAX-NRT leg was laughably bad. Power went out somewhere in the first half of the flight. I woke up to a child playing her private iPad loudly and when I asked the FAs what the heck was going on, they said the IFE was out due to a power failure. Seats wouldn't recline either obviously as the power buttons were out. No running water in the bathroom. The power never came back during the flight so I was basically staring out my window waiting to land (5 hours or so).

Here is the kicker.. I was given vouchers worth 400 SGD that can be used on Krisflyer shopping catalogue. After leaving the plane, I was handed a letter of apology and a "gift" as an apology. That gift was a universal charger.

Nice try Singapore, nice try.

Curious what are you expecting for power outage?

Sandeep1 Jan 26, 2020 3:29 am


Originally Posted by bagold (Post 31995656)
Curious what are you expecting for power outage?

Certainly some sort of rebate on my miles. If I had redeemed for Y, that's a different story. However I wasn't given an F experience which is what I redeemed for.

Mlee888 Jan 26, 2020 8:41 am

The reality is the air and ground crew upon landing can only do so much in terms of compensation. They have everyone else on the plane to deal with too.

Yes the experience was bad but the only way you’ll get more in terms of compensation is to call up SQ directly and ask to speak with the KF management.

You’ll probably have more luck this way but if you remain quiet on that front, they will assume you are ok with what you were given.

Assuming you haven’t tried this method yet of course.

sbs2716g Jan 26, 2020 8:52 am

Frankly speaking, I think even if he write in SQ won’t be giving much more compensation. Maybe 10k miles.

fotographer Jan 26, 2020 9:07 am

how much is a chunk of miles?. maybe ask them to refund the difference between coach and first... but I would hope for much

sbs2716g Jan 26, 2020 9:19 am


Originally Posted by fotographer (Post 31996317)
how much is a chunk of miles?. maybe ask them to refund the difference between coach and first... but I would hope for much

but he still enjoy the F seat? First class foods? Only the IFE down for 5hours out of 18hrs flight.

So for those in Y, full refunds due to IFE down?

united 1k flyer Jan 26, 2020 10:21 am

Sense when is lax-nrt 18 hours. I love how people on FT love to take the side of the airline. OP please call singapore airlines and have a talk about this.

sbs2716g Jan 26, 2020 10:45 am


Originally Posted by united 1k flyer (Post 31996538)
Sense when is lax-nrt 18 hours. I love how people on FT love to take the side of the airline. OP please call singapore airlines and have a talk about this.

TS is flying from LAX to SIN. So is it 18hrs flight ? The sector affected is the last 5 hours for LAX-NRT

Kacee Jan 26, 2020 10:49 am

SQ is not known for being generous in providing compensation. That's mostly a US legacy thing.

ricktoronto Jan 26, 2020 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by sbs2716g (Post 31996597)
TS is flying from LAX to SIN. So is it 18hrs flight ? The sector affected is the last 5 hours for LAX-NRT

No, there are few flights of 18 hours, with Qantas LFK-SYD just flying in 19 hours. LAX SIN is 15 hours. 400 SGD and the charger (not sure if they are being ironic or helpful with that gift) seems reasonable.

garykung Jan 26, 2020 2:00 pm

OP - many here understand your frustration. And I can say that no one disagrees that you deserve compensation. However, there are something you should keep in mind:

1. Your situation is not a statutory compensatable event (i.e. required by law). So how much and what you can get depends on the airline. You have no saying on this unless a choice is given.

2. Airlines generally tier compensation or any form of goodwill gesture based on fare classes and/or your elite status. Sorry to say, given you flew on award, this will significantly impact your "bargaining" power, even you suppose to have none.

3. Outside the U.S., airlines are not keen to compensate. This is especially true with Asian airlines.

Bottom line - you have no negotiation power. So whatever you are given is basically final. Of course you can ask for more. But it is up to the airline to comply.

Sandeep1 Jan 26, 2020 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by fotographer (Post 31996317)
how much is a chunk of miles?. maybe ask them to refund the difference between coach and first... but I would hope for much

This would be acceptable to me.

Sandeep1 Jan 26, 2020 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by sbs2716g (Post 31996358)
but he still enjoy the F seat? First class foods? Only the IFE down for 5hours out of 18hrs flight.

So for those in Y, full refunds due to IFE down?

The seat itself is just 1 part of it. As I explained, during the latter half of the flight, the power buttons on the seat were out of order so I couldn't even get it to recline to put my legs up. So, no, I didn't really get to enjoy the F seat. And the 1st meal I enjoyed. The 2nd meal I did not as they were having issues with some of their ovens.

I will take the advice offered by several here and give SQ a call and see what can be worked out. Honestly, the vouchers they gave me that have to be used on Krisflyer shop or catalogue is what really triggered me. That is an absolute joke for comp.

davidj1 Jan 26, 2020 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by Sandeep1 (Post 31997300)
Honestly, the vouchers they gave me that have to be used on Krisflyer shop or catalogue is what really triggered me.

A voucher for a limited range of overpriced items? No thanks either. A credit off future travel would be better. What % of the ticket value you'll need to decide. ~15-20% sounds reasonable.


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