SMK77

You guys are impossible. djsflynn interviewed Timothy Chua who is SIA's VP of Airport Operations just a couple of weeks ago:

https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...e-private-room

Key findings:
- three lounges and three separate entrances
- no daylight for FCL and TPR
- the lounges will be in different positions than previously

bpk6h

Yup, aware of all this. I was only agreeing that the mock up photo you provided looks identical to the space currently used as the temp F lounge...I'm not suggesting that the temp F area will be the actual future F lounge.

WISEMEN

I’ve also been told directly by someone who is much higher up the food chain that F and TPR will be separate, but let’s see. The fact remains that the previous F lounge rendering is now part of the J lounge, so there may be some curve balls and surprises.

djsflynn

Maybe it'll be like BA's Club Europe business class, SQ will have a moveable partition which they slide across the floor to make a larger or smaller Private Room according to demand :P

djsflynn

I think I can help address this and any confusion/concern over if the F and TPR spaces may be merged.

When SQ/HBA shared its three concept pics, none of them were never identified as being of a specific lounge. They were just three pics.

However, there were three lounges called out in the release – Business, First and The Private Room – and there were three pics in the set. And it was pretty clear from the way the release talked up the bar at the Business lounge that the pic of the bar would belong to the Business Lounge, so it was a natural assumption that one of each of the other pics belonged to each of the other lounges – ie one First pic and one TPR pic. I treated the pics that way and most others did too.

But it's clear that one of the pics was in fact The Living Room within the Business lounge; which leaves the dining room pic (below) as being either F or TPR. For what it's worth, this does look a bit more like a smaller, intimate and upscale TPR dining room than a larger First dining room.

SMK77

Has SIA sent out any invite for the media to see the new FCL and TPR before the opening later this month?

djsflynn

Not as yet.

djsflynn

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but SQ has now pushed back the opening of the First lounge and The Private Room (despite only weeks ago saying Feb was a go) due to impact of Covid.

I've had this confirmed by the airline, which states the delay is due to "the ongoing disruption to the supply of goods and construction materials, as well as manpower constraints, owing to border restrictions and closures."

The delay could span anywhere from a few weeks to a few months, so we're now looking at possibly March or April.

More at https://www.executivetraveller.com/n...e-private-room

WISEMEN

Thanks for the heads up David. Disappointing news, but I suppose these things always have a habit of being delayed, even in non-COVID times. In that case I won't get a look in on my next couple of trips but let's hope it's not going to be several months...

Now, my curiosity has gotten the better of me once again and I've tried to map the dining room photo to the floor plan above. It seems to me that this lines up quite well with the area immediately below the blue line delineating the J lounge, with the bench seating depicted to on the "south" side of the room. That would probably make sense given it's right beside the common J/F kitchen facilities. In terms of seating, it's probably quite a similar seat count - maybe even more - than the previous T3 F lounge's dining area. Now without wanting to get SMK77 into a flap again, I still can't decipher a separate TPR entry/area...

djsflynn

The TPR entry area is not a formal corridor as such, it's more a carpet of rose petals strewn in your path by Elite Silvers...

SMK77

I am very nice person unless your posts are below the IQ where small orange veggies grow. I love meaningful contributions that help the community. Keep them coming!

On a more serious note: When you come up the elevator, it appears that the access to the Business Class Lounge is straight ahead while First Class turns left (like you know it from boarding an aircraft) and once you are through the holy gate, they might give you different directions depending whether you actually sit in First Class or Suites. I can't really make sense out of it for now other than being pretty sure that FCL and TPR are below the blue line.

djsflynn

On my pre-opening visit to the Business lounge, the SQ team walked me around to roughly where the entrances would be and I noticed that when they remarked on the split entrances, they gestured left for First/TPR, so yes, it's definitely a left turn.

I got the feeling there would be a single reception area for all first flyers and then they might be guided to the main First lounge or escorted to The Private Room, so perhaps there will be two seperate 'entrances' spearing off from the 'first class' reception area, but that's not 100% certain.

It could simply be that constraints of space (because corridors & walkways take up quite a chunk of room) mean the The Private Room will still be nestled somewhere within the larger footprint of the 'first lounge zone'. But again, that's all supposition.

SMK77

I am sure all smart PPS members in Singapore have upgraded themselves to PPS Solitaire status using the current opportunities and the FCL will see more traffic than before. Let's hope there are not too many constraints when it comes to space

John Overton

Any update on opening date?

marks88

I'll be passing thru BOM-SIN-LAX in a few weeks. Will update thread then, assuming I am allowed to enter FCL (BOM-SIN in F, SIN-LAX in nonstop J with no F cabin).