A350-900 ULR Singapore Airlines
May 30, 2018, 11:25 pm
#31
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: BRU, SIN, PEK
Programs: SQ TPP, LH SEN
Posts: 3,235
In any case I'm glad the flight is back, I've hated having to take SQ25/26 as my US office is only 30mins away from EWR, and the FRA transit is a PITA. I will dearly miss the Virgin Atlantic lounge though!
May 31, 2018, 7:23 am
#32
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: PHL, NYC, DC
Posts: 9,708
Good old SQ21 and 22 is back................... Premium Economy on their A345 was pretty good.....
Lots of snacks (like chicken pot pie, sandwiches, curry puffs etc....) Also with less people on board (50/50 split between J and PY in space) the atmosphere was more relaxing..........
Like the new schedule now........ leaves midnight SIN and arrives 5am EWR which allows you to connect with other carriers and get to the office same day..... for the return though.... you can sleep before travel and get to SIN in time for dinner....
Previously it was midnight departure from EWR, arriving SIN at 4am.... return was 12pm arriving EWR at 5:30pm in time for last evening connection flights.....
Lots of snacks (like chicken pot pie, sandwiches, curry puffs etc....) Also with less people on board (50/50 split between J and PY in space) the atmosphere was more relaxing..........
Like the new schedule now........ leaves midnight SIN and arrives 5am EWR which allows you to connect with other carriers and get to the office same day..... for the return though.... you can sleep before travel and get to SIN in time for dinner....
Previously it was midnight departure from EWR, arriving SIN at 4am.... return was 12pm arriving EWR at 5:30pm in time for last evening connection flights.....
May 31, 2018, 8:18 am
#33
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: BOS/SIN
Programs: DL PM, OZ Diamond Plus, BA Silver
Posts: 1,803
Seat map is posted - https://www.singaporeair.com/saar5/p...50-900-ULR.pdf
The last 3 rows of PEY look interesting with 1-4-1...
The last 3 rows of PEY look interesting with 1-4-1...
May 31, 2018, 9:06 am
#34
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: MNL / SFO / NYC
Programs: IHG Spire | Marriott Plat | UA Plat | AA Plat Pro
Posts: 533
Bet those single seats in PEY will be blocked for PPS until OLCI... but interesting for solo travellers.
Checked prices and they're in line with the current JFK-FRA-SIN so at least they're not charging a premium to fly this service.
Checked prices and they're in line with the current JFK-FRA-SIN so at least they're not charging a premium to fly this service.
May 31, 2018, 9:45 am
#35
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: BOS/SIN
Programs: DL PM, OZ Diamond Plus, BA Silver
Posts: 1,803
Also somewhat surprisingly the EWR-SIN nonstop is cheaper than JFK-FRA-SIN over the Christmas/New Year's period since I guess inventory is wide open for now.
May 31, 2018, 9:55 am
#36
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: MNL / SFO / NYC
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Posts: 533
Jun 1, 2018, 7:02 pm
#37
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,378
one negative thing about the current PE seats:
if load is light, you cannot raise the armrests and have an economy lie-flat seat
from EF, seems like bulkhead row 31, AC&HK are blocked, EF bassinet seats are blocked, but DF aisles are selectable
Left|middle|right
AC DEFG HK
from EF picking a random date (10/30-11/13 EWR-SIN)
cheapest booking class for PE = R
R is new, P used to be the cheapest fare basis for PE
(fare class for suites used to be R... slightly confusing
EF is confused too, thinks that cabin=PremiumFirst for this PE fare)
who wants to be a guinea pig, credit to a partner airline and see what happens? partner airlines will likely update their award chart by October
NYC-SIN, I see separate fares for SQ21/22 vs SQ25/26, does not overlap
RMAP21TA (NYC-FRA-AMS/ATH/LON/...-SIN, flexible routing, transatlantic must be on SQ25/26)
RMAP45NP (via north-pacific, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
RMAP45NA (via north-atlantic, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
same price right now for all the fares ($1400USD), but I can imagine this changing.
also, the "45" = advance 45-day fare, "21" = advance 21-day fare, so there is a difference after September
RMAP21NA/P is $1475USD
difference comes from taxes/fees due to the FRA stopover
Germany Passenger Service Charge International Departure (RA)
$49.40
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for SIN-EWR, the fare basis has no routing restrictions, can do nonstop or FRA stop
R15SGR02 SGD 2100
RT5SGGV202 SGD 1800 (min 2 passengers)
on singaporeair.com, when you choose PE, it says
"Priority treatment - First Class check-in reception".
if you choose Business, it doesn't say that
if load is light, you cannot raise the armrests and have an economy lie-flat seat
from EF, seems like bulkhead row 31, AC&HK are blocked, EF bassinet seats are blocked, but DF aisles are selectable
Left|middle|right
AC DEFG HK
cheapest booking class for PE = R
R is new, P used to be the cheapest fare basis for PE
(fare class for suites used to be R... slightly confusing
EF is confused too, thinks that cabin=PremiumFirst for this PE fare)
who wants to be a guinea pig, credit to a partner airline and see what happens? partner airlines will likely update their award chart by October
NYC-SIN, I see separate fares for SQ21/22 vs SQ25/26, does not overlap
RMAP21TA (NYC-FRA-AMS/ATH/LON/...-SIN, flexible routing, transatlantic must be on SQ25/26)
RMAP45NP (via north-pacific, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
RMAP45NA (via north-atlantic, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
same price right now for all the fares ($1400USD), but I can imagine this changing.
also, the "45" = advance 45-day fare, "21" = advance 21-day fare, so there is a difference after September
RMAP21NA/P is $1475USD
difference comes from taxes/fees due to the FRA stopover
Germany Passenger Service Charge International Departure (RA)
$49.40
-----------------
for SIN-EWR, the fare basis has no routing restrictions, can do nonstop or FRA stop
R15SGR02 SGD 2100
RT5SGGV202 SGD 1800 (min 2 passengers)
on singaporeair.com, when you choose PE, it says
"Priority treatment - First Class check-in reception".
if you choose Business, it doesn't say that
Last edited by paperwastage; Jun 2, 2018 at 9:23 am
Jun 2, 2018, 2:17 am
#38
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,738
Probably means somewhere in the SQ systems / website the R booking class part being now PE isn't fully sorted / cleaned up.
Similarily, when you make a Biz award booking currently the confirmation that the website displays has green color and says Economy, but shows booking class I and 40kg luggage allowance. Go figure.
Similarily, when you make a Biz award booking currently the confirmation that the website displays has green color and says Economy, but shows booking class I and 40kg luggage allowance. Go figure.
Jun 2, 2018, 5:41 am
#39
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: BOS/SIN
Programs: DL PM, OZ Diamond Plus, BA Silver
Posts: 1,803
from EF picking a random date (10/30-11/13 EWR-SIN)
cheapest booking class for PE = R
R is new, P used to be the cheapest fare basis for PE
(fare class for suites used to be R... slightly confusing
EF is confused too, thinks that cabin=PremiumFirst for this PE fare)
who wants to be a guinea pig, credit to a partner airline and see what happens? partner airlines will likely update their award chart by October
cheapest booking class for PE = R
R is new, P used to be the cheapest fare basis for PE
(fare class for suites used to be R... slightly confusing
EF is confused too, thinks that cabin=PremiumFirst for this PE fare)
who wants to be a guinea pig, credit to a partner airline and see what happens? partner airlines will likely update their award chart by October
I see separate fares for SQ21/22 vs SQ25/26, does not overlap
RMAP21TA (NYC-FRA-AMS/ATH/LON/...-SIN, flexible routing, transatlantic must be on SQ25/26)
RMAP45NP (via north-pacific, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
RMAP45NA (via north-atlantic, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
same price right now for all the fares ($1400USD), but I can imagine this changing.
also, the "45" = advance 45-day fare, "21" = advance 21-day fare, so there is a difference after September
RMAP21NA/P is $1475USD
difference comes from taxes/fees due to the FRA stopover
Germany Passenger Service Charge International Departure (RA)
$49.40
RMAP21TA (NYC-FRA-AMS/ATH/LON/...-SIN, flexible routing, transatlantic must be on SQ25/26)
RMAP45NP (via north-pacific, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
RMAP45NA (via north-atlantic, NYC-SIN routing only on SQ21/22)
same price right now for all the fares ($1400USD), but I can imagine this changing.
also, the "45" = advance 45-day fare, "21" = advance 21-day fare, so there is a difference after September
RMAP21NA/P is $1475USD
difference comes from taxes/fees due to the FRA stopover
Germany Passenger Service Charge International Departure (RA)
$49.40
Jun 2, 2018, 6:55 am
#40
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,378
I only see R fare bucket starting in oct when SQ21/22 begins... so you can't just book a PE R fare on SQ25/26 tonight
https://us.flyasiana.com/C/en/homepa...=CMS#singapore
Applied as of 2018.02.01.
* M,H,W : 100% → 75%
* L : 100% → 0%
I wonder what the difference is between the NP and NA fares (since both route on SQ21/22 anyway)...
the only difference I see in the text is P = Pacific, A = Atlantic.
Jun 2, 2018, 7:14 am
#41
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Some interesting details from Lucky
Singapore Airlines’ Newark To Singapore Flight Is Now Bookable!
MAY 30 2018
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Singapore Airlines’ Newark To Singapore Flight Is Now Bookable!
MAY 30 2018
https://onemileatatime.boardingarea....gapore-newark/
Jun 4, 2018, 5:55 am
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SIA expects payload restrictions on some A350-900ULR flights
Jun 4, 2018, 4:27 pm
#45
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I believe that was the original plan, but still waiting for the announcement. I remember taking one of their final flights on this route with the old plane and their were only 50 people on the entire plane. It was a nice flight...