Star Alliance Awards Devaluation, Online Star Alliance Awards & New Service Fees
#32
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: YVR
Programs: OZ Diamond, Jiffypark Manhattan Gold
Posts: 4,485
Can anyone confirm/deny this for me...
I'll be able to do it myself once the online system gets up and running but, based on the one time I called and found that she had very different availability than I could find online I started wondering.
With SQ letting basically 0 long haul J/F space out to any * partners, do those partners return that favor and shut SQ out of space? I was only looking for Y but when I called she couldn't find ANY of the AC Y space I could see on EF/AP/UA. I'm holding on 55k in KF miles, and while this deval hasn't really affected me, I wonder how hard it'll be to redeem these 55 (or maybe 60 going forward) to find a flight YVR-EZE or something like that if it's largely gonna be AC based, and, how brutal the YQ might be on that via AC or UA.
I'll be able to do it myself once the online system gets up and running but, based on the one time I called and found that she had very different availability than I could find online I started wondering.
With SQ letting basically 0 long haul J/F space out to any * partners, do those partners return that favor and shut SQ out of space? I was only looking for Y but when I called she couldn't find ANY of the AC Y space I could see on EF/AP/UA. I'm holding on 55k in KF miles, and while this deval hasn't really affected me, I wonder how hard it'll be to redeem these 55 (or maybe 60 going forward) to find a flight YVR-EZE or something like that if it's largely gonna be AC based, and, how brutal the YQ might be on that via AC or UA.
#33
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, SQ PPS Solitaire
Posts: 3,599
SQ has a LOYALTY program because they are looking for people that are keen to fly SQ again and again. A good LOYALTY program sets incentives to book more and more expensive tickets.
Offering cheap redemption rates on other *A programs might not actually achieve that.
Offering cheap redemption rates on other *A programs might not actually achieve that.
#36
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: MNL / SFO / NYC
Programs: IHG Spire | Marriott Plat | UA Plat | AA Plat Pro
Posts: 533
I never find any amount of money trivial (as is my personal mindset when saving and spending), more so I ask "Is it worth spending this, regardless of price?". It is true that in the grand scheme of things if you look at the F award as a free ticket the US$25 isn't that bad, but if I could save it, I still would (call it my stingy Asian parent upbringing).
#38
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: New York, NY
Programs: IHG Spire Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 456
Just got off the phone with SQ and was told that since *any change* to Star Alliance award tickets require the ticket to be re-issued, the prevailing conditions (i.e. award chart) at the time would apply. If anyone has heard any different, please chime in. The rep I spoke to sounded pretty certain about this.
#39
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: Lifetime *G (MP), Lifetime PE (Bonvoy)
Posts: 1,465
Availability
I'm wondering if there'll be the same tit-for-tat "invisible" inventory eg. if I'm on MileagePlus I can't see much SQ inventory but I sometimes can on other *A sites. If I'm on KrisFlyer will I equally miss out on UA inventory?
#40
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,385
Just got off the phone with SQ and was told that since *any change* to Star Alliance award tickets require the ticket to be re-issued, the prevailing conditions (i.e. award chart) at the time would apply. If anyone has heard any different, please chime in. The rep I spoke to sounded pretty certain about this.
#41
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: New York, NY
Programs: IHG Spire Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 456
I've been getting conflicting info re changes to existing *A award tickets. Trying to make last-minute changes to two tickets so been calling them lots. Asked three agents over the past 24 hours - two said only the fees would increase, not the mileage whereas one said the mileage would increase as per the new chart (at 12/7 midnight Singapore local time). The latter is consistent with what I was told by a rep a few days ago. I plan on confirming one ticket today before the deadline and will likely have to wait to confirm the other, so I'll report back on the increase, if any.