ermen

the question is why so many kids are allergic to nuts these days?
when I was growing up, nobody seemed to be allergic to a peanut butter and jelly sandwich?

Coathanger

The durian ban is easy to understand. The fruit is strong smelling, and to many people unpleasant, so it is banned in hotels and aircraft.

I'm not familiar with the breakdown of people with peanut-only allergies compared to multiple-nut allergies but if peanuts are the main risk, then the suggestion upthread to switch to a cashew & almond mix makes sense to reduce the risk.

Good on QF for going nut free, though I'd be interested to see if they screen passengers for nuts they may have in their cabin baggage for personal consumption, and whether this is mentioned in their CoC.

If a compromise can be reached by minimising, but not eliminating, exposure to peanuts through produce substitution (give me cashews and almonds any day!) then it might be more tenable for all concerned.

percysmith

I don't know if this is a good or appropriate analogy, but:

Victim (or his mother): SQ please stop serving peanuts on flights
People like me: Let's stop serving peanuts
Other people: Oh we cannot guarantee the cabin will be entirely nut free/no-one will bring peanuts on board

Doctors: Patients are dying when they're being operated on until unsterilised conditions
Lister: Let's sterilise operating environments
Other people: Oh we cannot kill all germs

(Not intended to compare myself to Joseph Lister, just the fallacy of the opposing argument)
It's all a matter of degree. But there must be must be some point where the pros outweigh the cons and change is justified.

Troopers

What does doing perfectly well being unreasonable have to do with thread topic? Being unreasonable and doing well are not mutually exclusive.

rufflesinc

Better pax go nut than nuts

I pack snack bars that are not random, but carefully chosen based on their nutrition facts, taste, ingredients, price and availability. I eat them not only because I don't want to rely on airline to feed me (not just Y but also J w/o dine on demand), but also because I exercise and get hungry often.

I'm not eating some cheap, high sugar/carb , nut free replacement and getting sick. You can pry my snack bars out of my cold dead hands.

davidj1

So the family lives in Melbourne.

They were travelling from Thailand via Singapore back to Melbourne when they experienced the alleged allergic reaction to nuts.

No problems flying MEL-SIN? Maybe it was on another carrier? Open jaw booking?

natbam

Guess it finally happened..

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...nacks-10189042

percysmith

Coathanger

Does the peanut sauce for the satay get substituted too?

carrotjuice

Isn't satay served only in J and F?

Coathanger

Yes. But if it's peanut allergy they are trying to protect against (as implied by the Channel News Asia article) then the removal of peanuts in Y seems like a half measure.

TravelwhileyouEat

Yes it will now be served with a generic chunky yellow-brown sauce with questionable origins.

I really don't see how stopping the service of peanuts in Y will help if they will still serve it in J and F. No airline in the world promises a 100% allergen-free aircraft and as such reasonable measures should be taken by those with allergies. My brother is allergic to peanuts and he always bring an epi-pen with a matching prescription. He also informs the airline to make sure that it is noted by the cabin crew so they dont give him anything with peanuts.

What if the next allergy attack is due to 'gluten particles' in the air? Will that mean they would stop serving rice and bread [good luck with that]?

percysmith

Isn't J/F Satay a sauce containing peanuts?

I can google numerous cases of reactions to smell of directly consumed peanuts (peanut flakes). I am less able to google a case of someone having a reaction to the vapour of a peanut sauce (without subsequently touching or consuming the sauce).

Or is this typical Flyertalk where we look for the unicorn case https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...n#post29142592 ?

percysmith

Reactions to smelling cooked sauce: they exist P.A. allergic to smell or not? (this case was a Qantas case)

Nevertheless I do not agree with your treating allergy-free cabins as a binary decision. It is more of a sliding scale.

Peanut allergy patients don't go from having no pre-warning about their condition to a full-blown symptom, unlike stroke patients - they get steadily worse over time.

They have a responsibility to bring their meds (like your brother) and to stop air travel when their allergy is so bad they cannot cope.

At least, with not serving consumed peanuts, you make the airline accessible again for a significant portion of the peanut-allergic population.