SQ to review serving nuts after toddler has allergic reaction to pax eating peanuts
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The durian ban is easy to understand. The fruit is strong smelling, and to many people unpleasant, so it is banned in hotels and aircraft.
I'm not familiar with the breakdown of people with peanut-only allergies compared to multiple-nut allergies but if peanuts are the main risk, then the suggestion upthread to switch to a cashew & almond mix makes sense to reduce the risk.
Good on QF for going nut free, though I'd be interested to see if they screen passengers for nuts they may have in their cabin baggage for personal consumption, and whether this is mentioned in their CoC.
If a compromise can be reached by minimising, but not eliminating, exposure to peanuts through produce substitution (give me cashews and almonds any day!) then it might be more tenable for all concerned.
I'm not familiar with the breakdown of people with peanut-only allergies compared to multiple-nut allergies but if peanuts are the main risk, then the suggestion upthread to switch to a cashew & almond mix makes sense to reduce the risk.
Good on QF for going nut free, though I'd be interested to see if they screen passengers for nuts they may have in their cabin baggage for personal consumption, and whether this is mentioned in their CoC.
If a compromise can be reached by minimising, but not eliminating, exposure to peanuts through produce substitution (give me cashews and almonds any day!) then it might be more tenable for all concerned.
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I don't know if this is a good or appropriate analogy, but:
Victim (or his mother): SQ please stop serving peanuts on flights
People like me: Let's stop serving peanuts
Other people: Oh we cannot guarantee the cabin will be entirely nut free/no-one will bring peanuts on board
Doctors: Patients are dying when they're being operated on until unsterilised conditions
Lister: Let's sterilise operating environments
Other people: Oh we cannot kill all germs
(Not intended to compare myself to Joseph Lister, just the fallacy of the opposing argument)
It's all a matter of degree. But there must be must be some point where the pros outweigh the cons and change is justified.
Victim (or his mother): SQ please stop serving peanuts on flights
People like me: Let's stop serving peanuts
Other people: Oh we cannot guarantee the cabin will be entirely nut free/no-one will bring peanuts on board
Doctors: Patients are dying when they're being operated on until unsterilised conditions
Lister: Let's sterilise operating environments
Other people: Oh we cannot kill all germs
(Not intended to compare myself to Joseph Lister, just the fallacy of the opposing argument)
It's all a matter of degree. But there must be must be some point where the pros outweigh the cons and change is justified.
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Better pax go nut than nuts
I pack snack bars that are not random, but carefully chosen based on their nutrition facts, taste, ingredients, price and availability. I eat them not only because I don't want to rely on airline to feed me (not just Y but also J w/o dine on demand), but also because I exercise and get hungry often.
I'm not eating some cheap, high sugar/carb , nut free replacement and getting sick. You can pry my snack bars out of my cold dead hands.
I pack snack bars that are not random, but carefully chosen based on their nutrition facts, taste, ingredients, price and availability. I eat them not only because I don't want to rely on airline to feed me (not just Y but also J w/o dine on demand), but also because I exercise and get hungry often.
I'm not eating some cheap, high sugar/carb , nut free replacement and getting sick. You can pry my snack bars out of my cold dead hands.
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So the family lives in Melbourne.
They were travelling from Thailand via Singapore back to Melbourne when they experienced the alleged allergic reaction to nuts.
No problems flying MEL-SIN? Maybe it was on another carrier? Open jaw booking?
They were travelling from Thailand via Singapore back to Melbourne when they experienced the alleged allergic reaction to nuts.
No problems flying MEL-SIN? Maybe it was on another carrier? Open jaw booking?
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The spokesperson added that snack packs for Economy class now contain peas and crackers instead of peanuts.
My seat neighbour on my HKG-DPS flight four days ago brought his own jar of peanuts (even tho we were still served one packet of peanuts with our pre-dinner drinks)...so if anyone needs peanuts so badly they can BYO
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Yes it will now be served with a generic chunky yellow-brown sauce with questionable origins.
I really don't see how stopping the service of peanuts in Y will help if they will still serve it in J and F. No airline in the world promises a 100% allergen-free aircraft and as such reasonable measures should be taken by those with allergies. My brother is allergic to peanuts and he always bring an epi-pen with a matching prescription. He also informs the airline to make sure that it is noted by the cabin crew so they dont give him anything with peanuts.
What if the next allergy attack is due to 'gluten particles' in the air? Will that mean they would stop serving rice and bread [good luck with that]?
I really don't see how stopping the service of peanuts in Y will help if they will still serve it in J and F. No airline in the world promises a 100% allergen-free aircraft and as such reasonable measures should be taken by those with allergies. My brother is allergic to peanuts and he always bring an epi-pen with a matching prescription. He also informs the airline to make sure that it is noted by the cabin crew so they dont give him anything with peanuts.
What if the next allergy attack is due to 'gluten particles' in the air? Will that mean they would stop serving rice and bread [good luck with that]?
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Isn't J/F Satay a sauce containing peanuts?
I can google numerous cases of reactions to smell of directly consumed peanuts (peanut flakes). I am less able to google a case of someone having a reaction to the vapour of a peanut sauce (without subsequently touching or consuming the sauce).
Or is this typical Flyertalk where we look for the unicorn case https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...n#post29142592 ?
I can google numerous cases of reactions to smell of directly consumed peanuts (peanut flakes). I am less able to google a case of someone having a reaction to the vapour of a peanut sauce (without subsequently touching or consuming the sauce).
Or is this typical Flyertalk where we look for the unicorn case https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...n#post29142592 ?
Last edited by percysmith; May 1, 2018 at 11:58 pm
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I really don't see how stopping the service of peanuts in Y will help if they will still serve it in J and F. No airline in the world promises a 100% allergen-free aircraft and as such reasonable measures should be taken by those with allergies. My brother is allergic to peanuts and he always bring an epi-pen with a matching prescription. He also informs the airline to make sure that it is noted by the cabin crew so they dont give him anything with peanuts.
Nevertheless I do not agree with your treating allergy-free cabins as a binary decision. It is more of a sliding scale.
Peanut allergy patients don't go from having no pre-warning about their condition to a full-blown symptom, unlike stroke patients - they get steadily worse over time.
They have a responsibility to bring their meds (like your brother) and to stop air travel when their allergy is so bad they cannot cope.
At least, with not serving consumed peanuts, you make the airline accessible again for a significant portion of the peanut-allergic population.
Last edited by percysmith; May 2, 2018 at 12:33 am