Why No Amenity Kit On SQ Business Class
#61
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This thread is stuck in a "I want an amenity kit, so therefore airlines should provide them" vs "I don't want an amenity kit, so therefore airlines shouldn't provide them" argument for which there will be no resolution. Some people find amenity kits of value, some don't. For better or worse, SQ has decided that amenity kits are not important in differentiating its business class offering. Customers can vote with their wallet. Personally, it's not a dealbreaker.
#62
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Actually it's more like the latter group doesn't really give a h00t if SQ starts giving out kits in J or not. After all, they're handing it out in Y and F. But we're being told that we're wrong, because we actually need be incensed that SQ can't even deliver the same level of service as other 'disgusting' airlines. *shrug*
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How many airlines in the world don't give amenity kits in J? SIA is pretty much alone.
vs.
Airlines that do:
ANA All Nippon Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
Asiana Airlines 5-Star Airline Rating
Cathay Pacific Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
Etihad Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
EVA Air 5-Star Airline Rating
Garuda Indonesia 5-Star Airline Rating
Hainan Airlines 5-Star Airline Rating
Qatar Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
[8]
4-star Airline Aer Lingus Ireland
4 Star Airline Aeroflot Russian Airlines Russia
4 Star Airline Air Astana Kazakhstan
4 Star Airline Air Canada Canada
4 Star Airline Air France France
4 Star Airline Air Mauritius Mauritius
4 Star Airline Air New Zealand New Zealand
4 Star Airline Air Seychelles Seychelles
4 Star Airline Austrian Airlines Austria
4 Star Airline Azerbaijan Airlines Azerbaijan
4 Star Airline British Airways UK
4 Star Airline China Airlines Taiwan
4 Star Airline China Southern Airlines China
4 Star Airline Dragonair Hong Kong
4 Star Airline Edelweiss Air Switzerland
4 Star Airline Emirates UAE
4 Star Airline Finnair Finland
4 Star Airline Hong Kong Airlines Hong Kong
4 Star Airline Japan Airlines Japan
4 Star Airline JetBlue (thank you Mint Class!)
4 Star Airline KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Netherlands
4 Star Airline Korean Air South Korea
4 Star Airline Lufthansa Germany
4 Star Airline Oman Air Oman
4 Star Airline Qantas Airways Australia
4 Star Airline Royal Air Maroc Morocco
4 Star Airline Saudi Arabian Airlines Saudi Arabia
4 Star Airline South African Airways South Africa
4 Star Airline Swiss International Air Lines Switzerland
4 Star Airline Thai Airways Thailand
4 Star Airline Turkish Airlines Turkey
4 Star Airline Vietnam Airlines Vietnam
4 Star Airline Virgin Atlantic UK
4 Star Airline Virgin Australia Australia
[35]
3 Star Airline Aerolineas Argentinas
3 Star Airline Aeromexico
3 Star Airline Air Austral
3 Star Airline Air Berlin
3 Star Airline Air Caraibes
3 Star Airline Air China
3 Star Airline Air Europa
3 Star Airline Air India
3 Star Airline Air Namibia
3 Star Airline Air Niugini
3 Star Airline Air Serbia
3 Star Airline Air Tahiti Nui
3 Star Airline Air Transat
3 Star Airline Alitalia
3 Star Airline American Airlines
3 Star Airline Arik Air
3 Star Airline Avianca
3 Star Airline Brussels Airlines
3 Star Airline China Eastern Airlines
3 Star Airline Condor Airlines
3 Star Airline Copa Airlines
3 Star Airline Czech Airlines
3 Star Airline Delta Air Lines
3 Star Airline Egyptair
3 Star Airline El Al Israel Airlines
3 Star Airline Ethiopian Airlines
3 Star Airline Fiji Airways
3 Star Airline Gulf Air
3 Star Airline Hawaiian Airlines
3 Star Airline Iberia
3 Star Airline Icelandair
3 Star Airline Jet Airways
3 Star Airline Kenya Airways
3 Star Airline Kuwait Airways
3 Star Airline LATAM Airlines
3 Star Airline LOT Polish Airlines
3 Star Airline Meridiana
3 Star Airline MIAT Mongolian Airlines
3 Star Airline Middle East Airlines
3 Star Airline Pakistan International
3 Star Airline Philippine Airlines
3 Star Airline Royal Brunei Airlines
3 Star Airline Royal Jordanian Airlines
3 Star Airline SAS Scandinavian Airlines
3 Star Airline SriLankan Airlines
3 Star Airline TAAG Angola Airlines
3 Star Airline TAP Air Portugal
3 Star Airline Tunisair
3 Star Airline United Airlines
3 Star Airline Uzbekistan Airways
3 Star Airline Xiamen Airlines
[51]
Others not rated:
Boliviana de Aviacion
La Compagnie
Mega Maldives Airlines
OpenSkies
RwandAir
Santa Barbara
[6]
So that's basically (8 + 35 + 51 + 6) = 100
And 99/100 = 99% of airlines giving out amenity kits in J
Defense rests. Aren't numbers fun?
vs.
Airlines that do:
ANA All Nippon Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
Asiana Airlines 5-Star Airline Rating
Cathay Pacific Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
Etihad Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
EVA Air 5-Star Airline Rating
Garuda Indonesia 5-Star Airline Rating
Hainan Airlines 5-Star Airline Rating
Qatar Airways 5-Star Airline Rating
[8]
4-star Airline Aer Lingus Ireland
4 Star Airline Aeroflot Russian Airlines Russia
4 Star Airline Air Astana Kazakhstan
4 Star Airline Air Canada Canada
4 Star Airline Air France France
4 Star Airline Air Mauritius Mauritius
4 Star Airline Air New Zealand New Zealand
4 Star Airline Air Seychelles Seychelles
4 Star Airline Austrian Airlines Austria
4 Star Airline Azerbaijan Airlines Azerbaijan
4 Star Airline British Airways UK
4 Star Airline China Airlines Taiwan
4 Star Airline China Southern Airlines China
4 Star Airline Dragonair Hong Kong
4 Star Airline Edelweiss Air Switzerland
4 Star Airline Emirates UAE
4 Star Airline Finnair Finland
4 Star Airline Hong Kong Airlines Hong Kong
4 Star Airline Japan Airlines Japan
4 Star Airline JetBlue (thank you Mint Class!)
4 Star Airline KLM Royal Dutch Airlines Netherlands
4 Star Airline Korean Air South Korea
4 Star Airline Lufthansa Germany
4 Star Airline Oman Air Oman
4 Star Airline Qantas Airways Australia
4 Star Airline Royal Air Maroc Morocco
4 Star Airline Saudi Arabian Airlines Saudi Arabia
4 Star Airline South African Airways South Africa
4 Star Airline Swiss International Air Lines Switzerland
4 Star Airline Thai Airways Thailand
4 Star Airline Turkish Airlines Turkey
4 Star Airline Vietnam Airlines Vietnam
4 Star Airline Virgin Atlantic UK
4 Star Airline Virgin Australia Australia
[35]
3 Star Airline Aerolineas Argentinas
3 Star Airline Aeromexico
3 Star Airline Air Austral
3 Star Airline Air Berlin
3 Star Airline Air Caraibes
3 Star Airline Air China
3 Star Airline Air Europa
3 Star Airline Air India
3 Star Airline Air Namibia
3 Star Airline Air Niugini
3 Star Airline Air Serbia
3 Star Airline Air Tahiti Nui
3 Star Airline Air Transat
3 Star Airline Alitalia
3 Star Airline American Airlines
3 Star Airline Arik Air
3 Star Airline Avianca
3 Star Airline Brussels Airlines
3 Star Airline China Eastern Airlines
3 Star Airline Condor Airlines
3 Star Airline Copa Airlines
3 Star Airline Czech Airlines
3 Star Airline Delta Air Lines
3 Star Airline Egyptair
3 Star Airline El Al Israel Airlines
3 Star Airline Ethiopian Airlines
3 Star Airline Fiji Airways
3 Star Airline Gulf Air
3 Star Airline Hawaiian Airlines
3 Star Airline Iberia
3 Star Airline Icelandair
3 Star Airline Jet Airways
3 Star Airline Kenya Airways
3 Star Airline Kuwait Airways
3 Star Airline LATAM Airlines
3 Star Airline LOT Polish Airlines
3 Star Airline Meridiana
3 Star Airline MIAT Mongolian Airlines
3 Star Airline Middle East Airlines
3 Star Airline Pakistan International
3 Star Airline Philippine Airlines
3 Star Airline Royal Brunei Airlines
3 Star Airline Royal Jordanian Airlines
3 Star Airline SAS Scandinavian Airlines
3 Star Airline SriLankan Airlines
3 Star Airline TAAG Angola Airlines
3 Star Airline TAP Air Portugal
3 Star Airline Tunisair
3 Star Airline United Airlines
3 Star Airline Uzbekistan Airways
3 Star Airline Xiamen Airlines
[51]
Others not rated:
Boliviana de Aviacion
La Compagnie
Mega Maldives Airlines
OpenSkies
RwandAir
Santa Barbara
[6]
So that's basically (8 + 35 + 51 + 6) = 100
And 99/100 = 99% of airlines giving out amenity kits in J
Defense rests. Aren't numbers fun?
Last edited by fly747first; Aug 3, 2017 at 8:57 pm
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this thread is still open ?
At the end of the day, that's a lot of waste. Think about the environment for once and not your wallet. You don't need the stuff anyway. What you need you can ask for it and find it in the bathroom. Fine by me.
At the end of the day, that's a lot of waste. Think about the environment for once and not your wallet. You don't need the stuff anyway. What you need you can ask for it and find it in the bathroom. Fine by me.
#71
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I quite liked the amenity kit when I occassionaly travel in J, so I can save it to use it for my other trips in Y. However, it became sort of a waste when most of my travels are in J. I do use some amenities but I don't take the case unless if it's good quality and big enough to be used as a "small travel bag".
However, I would be disappointed for such a premium airline like SQ that doesn't have a unique amenity kit.
However, I would be disappointed for such a premium airline like SQ that doesn't have a unique amenity kit.
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Am rather impressed with the 70th anniversary amenity kit !
Pleasantly surprised to receive one even on a " SL " flight
For a generous change , someone in management actually thought through not to stinge in this celebratory token
( An improvement to the cookie received in KIX in April )
Looking to receive more in a couple of weeks .
Pouch is handy , a keeper .
Haven't found out when we will receive this till , etcetera . If given out in all outbound . None on SIN outbound flights in May to HKG or SFO .
Pleasantly surprised to receive one even on a " SL " flight
For a generous change , someone in management actually thought through not to stinge in this celebratory token
( An improvement to the cookie received in KIX in April )
Looking to receive more in a couple of weeks .
Pouch is handy , a keeper .
Haven't found out when we will receive this till , etcetera . If given out in all outbound . None on SIN outbound flights in May to HKG or SFO .
Last edited by FlyerEC; Aug 10, 2017 at 9:58 am
#74
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I got mine yesterday on SQ26 SIN-FRA. It's nice, small and handy. The pouch has a nice feel to it and can be re-used easily.
They even provide transparent plastic "zip-lock" bags in case you need to carry these in your future carry-on luggage.
They even provide transparent plastic "zip-lock" bags in case you need to carry these in your future carry-on luggage.
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I rarely even open the kits as they don't have anything useful for me except sometimes a toothbrush that I might use after. Most of the eyeshades are uncomfortable (too tight) except for a few special ones that I've collected over the years. Like most smart travelers I wear special compression socks to avoid DVT so the socks that come with most kits are 100% useless to me.
I give them away to my relatives who fly economy or to homeless shelters. Mrs. B also finds a few of the nicer cases (e.g. tumi) to be useful for storing pill bottles, etc.
That being said, I care so little about the kits that I would not even use this as a tiebreaker when selecting an airline.
+1 Love slippers, no way I would ever set foot in a lav with those socks.
^^^ This. And even more importantly, the FAs clean the lavs periodically so they don't smell like a latrine at a Dead concert halfway thru the flight.
That being said, I care so little about the kits that I would not even use this as a tiebreaker when selecting an airline.
^^^ This. And even more importantly, the FAs clean the lavs periodically so they don't smell like a latrine at a Dead concert halfway thru the flight.