Singapore not renewing lease on A380
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So, is it that SQ gets newer, more technologically updated generation of A380s and gets rid of the first versions? Would they not get better lease rates if they kept these, or do they have obligations on those new ones that they cannot back out of and don't want an excess of A380s?
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I agree that journalist took the impact on airbus out of context but I think there will be an impact. One lingering reality for Airbus is when one of these whales hit's the second hand market - which has yet to happen. A portion of aircraft value is in it's long term or re-sale value. When A380's start hitting the second hand market, and get parked in the desert as their drops it will have a negative impact on any future the A380 has.
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I agree that journalist took the impact on airbus out of context but I think there will be an impact. One lingering reality for Airbus is when one of these whales hit's the second hand market - which has yet to happen. A portion of aircraft value is in it's long term or re-sale value. When A380's start hitting the second hand market, and get parked in the desert as their drops it will have a negative impact on any future the A380 has.
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MH still have not got offers for their's even though they have technically taken them off the market (they actually are still being marketed around China at the moment for sale).
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I presume the owned ones will stay with SQ a bit longer compared to the leased ones.
Did early-built A380s face weight problems like early 787s did? If it did, it would perhaps make sense for SQ to ditch the first five leased ones as soon as practicably possible yet not cede their 'first to fly A380' prestige tag.
Did early-built A380s face weight problems like early 787s did? If it did, it would perhaps make sense for SQ to ditch the first five leased ones as soon as practicably possible yet not cede their 'first to fly A380' prestige tag.
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Singapore Airlines Is Retiring Five A380 Aircraft....May 18 2017, by Lucky
Didn't want to start a new thread
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Interesting article. Among other things, he explains why SIA is retiring the old ones and replacing them with the new 380s (which we know from comments made last September)
Also, he links to SIA's May 18 2017 PDF on financial performance and a section on fleet management.
Singapore Airlines Is Retiring Five A380 Aircraft — Will They Find A New Home?
MAY 18, 2017 BY LUCKY
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...fleet-renewal/
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Interesting article. Among other things, he explains why SIA is retiring the old ones and replacing them with the new 380s (which we know from comments made last September)
Also, he links to SIA's May 18 2017 PDF on financial performance and a section on fleet management.
Singapore Airlines Is Retiring Five A380 Aircraft — Will They Find A New Home?
MAY 18, 2017 BY LUCKY
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.c...fleet-renewal/
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If anyone on here would like one of the old A380's, you can get them here
https://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft/pri...us/A380/350143
https://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft/pri...us/A380/350143
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There is speculation that Sydney might be the first to be upgraded, as per last time. Does anyone know any more on this?
I am wanting to book a redemption next year on either SQ222 or SQ232 (11am and 3pm departures); wonder whether either are more probable?
Looking to book F to either SYD --> LHR or SYD --> CDG.
I am wanting to book a redemption next year on either SQ222 or SQ232 (11am and 3pm departures); wonder whether either are more probable?
Looking to book F to either SYD --> LHR or SYD --> CDG.
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There is speculation that Sydney might be the first to be upgraded, as per last time. Does anyone know any more on this?
I am wanting to book a redemption next year on either SQ222 or SQ232 (11am and 3pm departures); wonder whether either are more probable?
Looking to book F to either SYD --> LHR or SYD --> CDG.
I am wanting to book a redemption next year on either SQ222 or SQ232 (11am and 3pm departures); wonder whether either are more probable?
Looking to book F to either SYD --> LHR or SYD --> CDG.
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SQ212 is currently a 773 though - so unless they're planning on switching other scheduled craft around, is it not more likely they replace one of the existing A380s?