PPS Value if ticket is issued by another *A airlines
Dec 22, 2014, 12:09 am
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PPS Value if ticket is issued by another *A airlines
Say I purchase a SQ First/Business ticket from UA, with a ticket number starting with 016. Will I be able to get PPS Value this way?
SQ's website only mentions that Suite, First, Bysiness on SQ is needed, and it never says whether it has to be ticketed by SQ.
Anyone with experience on this?
SQ's website only mentions that Suite, First, Bysiness on SQ is needed, and it never says whether it has to be ticketed by SQ.
Anyone with experience on this?
Dec 22, 2014, 12:44 am
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Even if it's a award booking from SQ itself, we still earn proportional PPS VALUE, right?
I think I saw this on PPS CLUB's webpage.
I think I saw this on PPS CLUB's webpage.
Dec 22, 2014, 1:54 am
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For miles + cash bookings (if anyone does these) earn on cash component though. For regular awards, I assume not ... but since earn on fuel fines (YQ) started last year, do you get PPS credit for the YQ on award bookings or not?
Dec 22, 2014, 5:54 am
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I was thinking that, but I suspect the answer is no. I definitely haven't received any PPS value on YQ for upgrade awards I've redeemed into J, so I don't see why award redemptions should earn PPS value too.
Dec 22, 2014, 9:16 am
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Here is the sentence from PPS Club webpage that I didn't fully understand:
For tickets paid with KrisFlyer miles, PPS Value can be earned in proportion to the fare (excluding airport taxes) that you have paid with your credit/debit card.
Since I am still using UA, and it doesn't charge fuel surcharges, I wasn't thinking about fuel surcharges when reading this. But now I think fuel surcharges might be the reason for this piece of statement.
For tickets paid with KrisFlyer miles, PPS Value can be earned in proportion to the fare (excluding airport taxes) that you have paid with your credit/debit card.
Since I am still using UA, and it doesn't charge fuel surcharges, I wasn't thinking about fuel surcharges when reading this. But now I think fuel surcharges might be the reason for this piece of statement.
Dec 22, 2014, 9:26 am
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I never received any PPS value for either award or upgrade bookings.
For tickets not issued by SQ with SQ/VS flight number, you do earn. I took a few of those ex-RGN tickets and all of them earned PPS value. The calculations were not revealed but I believe they amounted to what the issuing airlines paid SQ (in my case, those were Delta-issued tickets). And in these RGN cases, the PPS values earned were 10x more than what I had actually paid for the tickets.
For tickets not issued by SQ with SQ/VS flight number, you do earn. I took a few of those ex-RGN tickets and all of them earned PPS value. The calculations were not revealed but I believe they amounted to what the issuing airlines paid SQ (in my case, those were Delta-issued tickets). And in these RGN cases, the PPS values earned were 10x more than what I had actually paid for the tickets.
Dec 22, 2014, 10:48 pm
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Here is the sentence from PPS Club webpage that I didn't fully understand:
For tickets paid with KrisFlyer miles, PPS Value can be earned in proportion to the fare (excluding airport taxes) that you have paid with your credit/debit card.
Since I am still using UA, and it doesn't charge fuel surcharges, I wasn't thinking about fuel surcharges when reading this. But now I think fuel surcharges might be the reason for this piece of statement.
For tickets paid with KrisFlyer miles, PPS Value can be earned in proportion to the fare (excluding airport taxes) that you have paid with your credit/debit card.
Since I am still using UA, and it doesn't charge fuel surcharges, I wasn't thinking about fuel surcharges when reading this. But now I think fuel surcharges might be the reason for this piece of statement.
Dec 22, 2014, 11:34 pm
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On the other side, being able to just dump some money and get the status is a big plus.
Dec 23, 2014, 5:40 am
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Well, yes. However, unless you book ex-SIN, it is typically quite difficult to figure out how much PPS Value accrues to you with every booking. Other people have tried to figure it out, but it's very much a black box.
Dec 23, 2014, 6:45 am
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Dec 28, 2014, 8:31 am
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So, for example, I go to Air China's ticketing office and purchase a PEK-NRT-LAX, with NRT-LAX on SQ12.
Obviously the ticket will have a Air China ticket number with CA pre-fix.
Will I still earn PPS Value on the NRT-LAX segment?
Obviously the ticket will have a Air China ticket number with CA pre-fix.
Will I still earn PPS Value on the NRT-LAX segment?
Dec 28, 2014, 7:33 pm
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Yes you do. I have had PPS value given for my DL-issued tickets ex-RGN, even on VS-coded SQ flights.
Think of the issuing carrier as another travel agent. And you will earn PPS values as long as you are in SQ metal