KF Elite Silver
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Perth
Programs: QF Platinum, OW Emerald, HH Diamond
Posts: 56
KF Elite Silver
Just qualified for KFES for the first time.
Are there any unpublished benefits?
eg: Better seat selection during booking, more FF ticket availability, etc?
Thanks
Chucksta
Are there any unpublished benefits?
eg: Better seat selection during booking, more FF ticket availability, etc?
Thanks
Chucksta
#2
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SIN
Programs: JL GC | Marriott LT Silver | Global Entry | SQ Silver
Posts: 6,818
Not that I know of but the published benefits look like crap.
Even the 25% tier bonus is only for full fares.
Receive a 25% tier bonus on the actual number of miles flown on Singapore Airlines, SilkAir or Virgin Atlantic when you credit the miles to your KrisFlyer account. All Singapore Airlines and SilkAir booking classes except for Economy Class tickets issued in G, K, N, Q, T and V booking classes are eligible for this bonus.
CX Silver gets lounge access, priority baggage, and better seat selections.
Even the 25% tier bonus is only for full fares.
Receive a 25% tier bonus on the actual number of miles flown on Singapore Airlines, SilkAir or Virgin Atlantic when you credit the miles to your KrisFlyer account. All Singapore Airlines and SilkAir booking classes except for Economy Class tickets issued in G, K, N, Q, T and V booking classes are eligible for this bonus.
CX Silver gets lounge access, priority baggage, and better seat selections.
#3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SIN
Programs: TK-G | Accor P | SQ-G | Marriott T
Posts: 3,823
But your rank is the lowest, I think it will go like Solitaire, PPS, Gold and then Silver. Not sure if *A Gold will come between Gold and Silver.
to me even KF Gold does not give much other than priority wait list, KF (but not Silver Kris) lounge access (and *A lounge), and priority luggage tag and checkin (may not necessary priority boarding).
#4
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,128
Silver is virtually useless except for the 25% miles bonus on SQ metal, on some booking classes. And even those bonus miles do NOT count as status miles, so it's not like you are going to get Gold any easier.
Overall, KrisFlyer is a very poor and substandard FFP unless you spend a lot in Singapore using a credit card and generate miles this way. And if you have a family and travel together often, then even if you fly SQ you are better off crediting all flights to Virgin Australia's Velocity scheme that allows for family pooling of miles (and STATUS credits too!).
Overall, KrisFlyer is a very poor and substandard FFP unless you spend a lot in Singapore using a credit card and generate miles this way. And if you have a family and travel together often, then even if you fly SQ you are better off crediting all flights to Virgin Australia's Velocity scheme that allows for family pooling of miles (and STATUS credits too!).
Last edited by aster; Nov 5, 2014 at 11:02 pm
#6
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,128
As for OW, the main benefit missing is the extra luggage, where you need to have quite high status (OW Emerald) to get across the alliance.
But even living in SIN, there are many better OW choices for flights instead of SQ. BA easily beats SQ on flights to SYD, and flying to Europe AY (Finnair) is a great choice too.
#7
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: SIN
Programs: TK-G | Accor P | SQ-G | Marriott T
Posts: 3,823
Depend on where you are flying.....
Try to fly SIN-CGK (or in fact any where in SE Asia) on OW. You can only fly CX on SIN-BKK.
If you are thinking to fly MH, you won't be able to credit to CX on most of the promotion fares. The sub class which earn miles (50%) is very high.
If you are flying to Europe, N. Asia, N. America and perhaps Aussie, OW may have better choice.
But again you are comparing OW against SQ (not *A). From what I observe so far, posting cross airlines is much easier on *A rather than OW.
#8
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,158
The silver level is like on most *FFP almost uniformly a joke, but so it is on Skyteam (not familiar with OW, but i reckon its not much different).
OW makes sense for certain flight pattern ex-SIN, but as soon as someone has a lot of regional travelling to do, its useless. Not all of us clock in enough miles to reach status on two different programmes.
#9
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SIN
Programs: JL GC | Marriott LT Silver | Global Entry | SQ Silver
Posts: 6,818
I find that MH is easy to earn status by sectors if you travel around the region in their network frequently. Prices are very affordable as well.
Of course the status is nothing much to shout about though.
Of course the status is nothing much to shout about though.
#10
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,128
I do not really agree. Its somewhere in the middle, but KF is good if you redeem on SQ, bad if you arent planning that because you have no way to spend alternatively. The Gold benefits are in line with the *standard and there are not many *FFP offering more (the SEN level at MM has a much higher entry level, therfore they need to throw in a few more perks).
The silver level is like on most *FFP almost uniformly a joke, but so it is on Skyteam (not familiar with OW, but i reckon its not much different).
OW makes sense for certain flight pattern ex-SIN, but as soon as someone has a lot of regional travelling to do, its useless. Not all of us clock in enough miles to reach status on two different programmes.
The silver level is like on most *FFP almost uniformly a joke, but so it is on Skyteam (not familiar with OW, but i reckon its not much different).
OW makes sense for certain flight pattern ex-SIN, but as soon as someone has a lot of regional travelling to do, its useless. Not all of us clock in enough miles to reach status on two different programmes.
I would disagree that Silver is bad across the board. SQ Silver is exceptionally bad... simply because it gives you no perks at all.
LH Silver:
- business class check-in on LH and other Miles&More airlines (Austrian+LOT+Swiss)
- extra luggage on LH and other Miles&More airlines
- lounge access on LH and other Miles&More airlines
SQ Silver:
- nothing
- nothing
- nothing
Even Silver on Finnair gives you better check-in, extra luggage & lounge access when flying with them.
#12
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,158
The Lounge access is rather limited and includes only LH owned Lounges (Okay if your base is Germany, almost useless elsewhere). LH has cut back the lounges where FTLs have access and due to the fact that more and more intra-European connections are shifted from LH and 4U, its a pretty useless Status.
#13
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: AA plat pro, HH Diamond
Posts: 429
As a several years OW emerald (BA Gold) I agree that now being based in Singapore it is useful for longer range travel, but for travel in the region it is virtually useless unless travelling to KUL. And in that case, for flights like SIN-KUL or BKK-KUL, I hate to say it but TG and SQ are just a much nicer experience than MH, so even as OWE starting yo weigh up which to go with. My colleagues laugh at me when I pick the MH option...
With my current travel pattern all short haul in the region, am slowly building up towards KF gold based on a painful number of sin-BKK and the likes. Just got to silver - which I realise is useless.
All I can say is I would trade in my OWE status any day right at the moment for KF gold, the benefits for someone travelling short haul from SIN are much greater...
But previously, commuting mainly between LON and SIN I preferred OWE... So it depends on your situation I guess....
With my current travel pattern all short haul in the region, am slowly building up towards KF gold based on a painful number of sin-BKK and the likes. Just got to silver - which I realise is useless.
All I can say is I would trade in my OWE status any day right at the moment for KF gold, the benefits for someone travelling short haul from SIN are much greater...
But previously, commuting mainly between LON and SIN I preferred OWE... So it depends on your situation I guess....
#14
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,128
The Lounge access is rather limited and includes only LH owned Lounges (Okay if your base is Germany, almost useless elsewhere). LH has cut back the lounges where FTLs have access and due to the fact that more and more intra-European connections are shifted from LH and 4U, its a pretty useless Status.
Even the 25% on both carriers isn't the same. With LH the bonus also counts towards status miles, on SQ it does not.
Basically SQ Silver is complete rubbish, and the worst silver status that I have seen so far.
#15
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Singapore, Warsaw, Surfers Paradise
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold>>>Silver>>>Blue, Finnair Silver, Royal Caribbean Diamond
Posts: 5,128
As a several years OW emerald (BA Gold) I agree that now being based in Singapore it is useful for longer range travel, but for travel in the region it is virtually useless unless travelling to KUL. And in that case, for flights like SIN-KUL or BKK-KUL, I hate to say it but TG and SQ are just a much nicer experience than MH, so even as OWE starting yo weigh up which to go with. My colleagues laugh at me when I pick the MH option...
With my current travel pattern all short haul in the region, am slowly building up towards KF gold based on a painful number of sin-BKK and the likes. Just got to silver - which I realise is useless.
All I can say is I would trade in my OWE status any day right at the moment for KF gold, the benefits for someone travelling short haul from SIN are much greater...
But previously, commuting mainly between LON and SIN I preferred OWE... So it depends on your situation I guess....
With my current travel pattern all short haul in the region, am slowly building up towards KF gold based on a painful number of sin-BKK and the likes. Just got to silver - which I realise is useless.
All I can say is I would trade in my OWE status any day right at the moment for KF gold, the benefits for someone travelling short haul from SIN are much greater...
But previously, commuting mainly between LON and SIN I preferred OWE... So it depends on your situation I guess....
In recent times I discovered another alternative to KF and *G even, namely Virgin Australia's Velocity ffp:
http://www.velocityfrequentflyer.com/content/
You might be able to rack up miles and status rather quickly here, especially if you do some family travel as they allow you to pool miles. This is also the ONLY ffp I have come across that also allows you to pool... STATUS credits.