B777-300ERs when do they stop being "new"?
Sep 28, 2010, 9:51 am
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B777-300ERs when do they stop being "new"?
On 28 November 2006 SQ took on it's 1st B777-300ER with the refitted seats.
So I've had nearly FOUR years of flying around in this "new" product, paying a premium on fares and having to pay double miles on redemption tickets.
When is SQ going consider this a non-premium product? I guess the answer from SQ's point of view is "we're not, as long as we can get away with charging more for it"?
So I've had nearly FOUR years of flying around in this "new" product, paying a premium on fares and having to pay double miles on redemption tickets.
When is SQ going consider this a non-premium product? I guess the answer from SQ's point of view is "we're not, as long as we can get away with charging more for it"?
Sep 28, 2010, 11:35 am
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Sep 28, 2010, 12:41 pm
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SQ just considers these aircrafts and the A345, and A380 as having a different kind of long haul Business Class seats.
Just be grateful that they have not grouped all Business and First Class redemption seats totally out of reach like they have done so with another FFP - eg Virgin's!
Just be grateful that they have not grouped all Business and First Class redemption seats totally out of reach like they have done so with another FFP - eg Virgin's!
Sep 28, 2010, 2:16 pm
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Still I agree that something needs to be done, especially if the 747s are to be replaced. What then, basically no saver awards on long-haul? That would be tragic. My guess is that they'll do a complete over-haul of the award system as they cannot expect people to redeem at so-called "normal" (double the saver miles required) rates.
Sep 28, 2010, 3:14 pm
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On 28 November 2006 SQ took on it's 1st B777-300ER with the refitted seats.
So I've had nearly FOUR years of flying around in this "new" product, paying a premium on fares and having to pay double miles on redemption tickets.
When is SQ going consider this a non-premium product? I guess the answer from SQ's point of view is "we're not, as long as we can get away with charging more for it"?
So I've had nearly FOUR years of flying around in this "new" product, paying a premium on fares and having to pay double miles on redemption tickets.
When is SQ going consider this a non-premium product? I guess the answer from SQ's point of view is "we're not, as long as we can get away with charging more for it"?
Sep 28, 2010, 3:40 pm
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I guess for some SQ frequent flyer there is not much of a choice for certain sectors because only the "new" business / suite seats are available.
Personally, I also think after 4 years, the products are really not so new anymore and many times do not even look new anymore. It seems to me that this is a way for SQ to reduce the number of awards redeemed seats, particularly those redeemed using other Star Alliance frequent flyer programs.
Personally, I also think after 4 years, the products are really not so new anymore and many times do not even look new anymore. It seems to me that this is a way for SQ to reduce the number of awards redeemed seats, particularly those redeemed using other Star Alliance frequent flyer programs.
Last edited by anaidross; Sep 28, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Sep 28, 2010, 10:36 pm
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What SQ should do is reduce the insane figures to something more manageable but still a fraction higher than the standard saver to bar redemptions from other *A FFPs. i.e. BD
Sep 29, 2010, 2:51 pm
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending SQ's policy, but so long as people, just like yourself, redeem and pay for the product, how can you fault them?
Oct 1, 2010, 12:10 pm
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Oct 3, 2010, 9:40 pm
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That is somewhat meaningless - you ought to compare the pitch (which is much smaller on SQ) and the width of the seat.
Oct 4, 2010, 3:05 am
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http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Sin..._777-300ER.php
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...0ER_3class.php
So you reckon EK would have wider seats with their terrible 2-3-2 layout than SQ has with a 1-2-1 setup on the exact same metal?
Just looking at the stats on the 77W in C on both airlines, Emirates has a seat width of 20.5" whereas SQ has... 30". That's quite a difference (SQ even has 19" in Y).
We are talking about the new SQ C here, and it's pretty much as good as it gets when it comes to flying biz (big, wide seats, everyone has aisle access, etc.). Pity though that it makes no sense to burn miles on rewards in new C as you can spend less to get into the old F on the 744 which is still a great product.
Last edited by aster; Oct 4, 2010 at 3:12 am