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The 'Best credit cards for KF miles accrual' master thread

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I'm going to update this first post as more info flows in to create a 'master list' of all credit cards that offer a decent way of accruing miles - so please help out!

If you know of and/or use any other cards (or the ones already mentioned), please share your thoughts.

***ALL VALUES BELOW IN SINGAPORE DOLLARS (SGD)***
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In no particular order (apart from personal preference in terms of good-mileage opportunities):
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1. UOB PRVI Miles VISA, MasterCard, AMEX

VISA:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...iles_visa.html
MasterCard:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard.html
Amex:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...amex_card.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...ard/microsite/



Mileage accrual:
From 15 May 2015, the earn rate will be 1.4 miles for every $1 spent in multiples of S$10 (every multiple of S$5 gives 6 to 7 miles due to 3.5 UNI$ rounding off, every S$10 gives 14 miles), and 2.4 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS (every $5 gives 12 miles).

Requirements: min. income $80,000 (not strict).
Cost: First year free, then S$256.80 for main, first two supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver for Amex card if you charge $50,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name together for all UOB cards.

Pros: Best mileage accrual rates for overseas spend only. 20,000 bonus miles and annual fee waiver with spend of $50,000 per year (both only for Amex card). $45 1-way airport transfer voucher for $1,000 overseas spend in a given quarter (Amex only).
Cons: AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

2. UOB Preferred Platinum Visa & UOB Preferred Platinum American Express Card (AMEX no longer available for application wef 01 Oct 2015)

http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards..._platinum.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...visa_card.html


Mileage accrual: Earn a MASSIVE 4 miles for every $1 spent using VISA Paywave contactless payments (every $5 gives 10 UNI$ which equal 20 miles). Same incredible mileage-earning ratio for internet shopping with certain restrictions (travel-related, utilities, etc.). Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 for regular, signature-based payments (every $5 gives 1 UNI$ which equal 2 miles).

WARNING: From 3 July 2017, earning 4 miles/$ is limited to the first S$1110 spent during the per calendar month (via Paywave and online). 2,000UNI$ refers to the extra 9UNI$ and does not include the normal 1UNI$.(Not sure if this is true as I think UNi$2000 they are talking about is total earned including the basic 1, plus bonus 9 = total 10 per $1 spend "The total UNI$ awarded to each Cardmember from qualifying spend on Selected Online Transactions and Contactless Transactions is capped at UNI$2,000 for each calendar month. After which, UNI$1 will be awarded for every S$5 spent"https://www.uob.com.sg/personal/card...visa-card.page Stop when you notice you earn 3UNI$ (1 + bonus 2) for the last S$5 payWave transaction. ($1110/5)x9=1998UNI$, hence the last S$5 payWave transaction will earn 2 bonus UNI$.

Keep in mind that some merchants offer different, non-mileage accruing awards with UOB cards which are called SMART$. Some popular merchants include Cold Storage, Guardian and Giant Supermarket. A full list of merchants where Paywave transactions will NOT earn miles can be found here:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...smartclub.html

(Wef 01 Oct 2015 no new applications) UOB Preferred Platinum American Express Card: Cardmembers will earn 10X UNI$ at any F&B establishments WORLDWIDE registered under the following MCC:

5812 Eating Places and Restaurants
5813 Drinking Places (Alcoholic Beverages) – Bars, Taverns, Nightclubs, Cocktail Lounges, and Discotheques
5814 Fast Food Restaurants

F&B establishments does not include bakeries, caterers and F&B spending at establishments that does not have F&B as its main business activity such as hotels and supermarkets. Best for local dining. Very hard to determine MCC code for overseas dining places.

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($60,000 for foreigners).
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for main and $96.30 for supplementary. Annual fee waived off easily.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion, in blocks of 5000 UNI$=10,000 miles. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name for all UOB cards.

Pros: Incredible mileage accrual rates for Paywave transactions (not all merchants - some give SMART$ instead which are different rewards!) as well as internet transactions (some restrictions apply).
Cons: Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

3. Citi PremierMiles Visa & AMEX

http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...CAAEENCCHOCALM
http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...s/cc_xx_pm.htm
http://www.citibank.com.sg/global_do...iles/index.htm



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles (1.3 miles for AMEX) for every $1 spent (every $0.83 [VISA] or S$0.769 gives 1 mile [AMEX]). Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS. 10,000 bonus miles for VISA & 15,000 bonus miles for AMEX for each annual membership renewal.

Requirements: min. income $50,000 for VISA & S$80,000 for AMEX (very strict for AMEX). Principal cardholder must be at least 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for VISA main, supplementary always free. S$267.50 for AMEX. Annual fee waiver available in exchange for forfeiting the 10,000 or 15,000 miles renewal bonus.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Decent all-rounder, good for overseas spend. Points never expire. Bonus miles for annual card renewal. 11 frequent flyer programs & 3 hotel programs to choose from, including EVA Air - only 25,000 miles for 1 way Business Class within Asia!!
Cons: No miles awarded for EZ-Link & Transitlink transactions. Miles awarded per S$1. Cents not included. 1.2 or 1.3 miles/S$1. Transfer in blocks of 10,000 miles.

4. DBS Altitude VISA/AMEX

http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx
http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent (every $5 gives 3 DBS points which equal 6 miles). Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS.

Requirements: min. income $80,000.
Cost: First year free, then $180 for main and $90 for supplementary. Annual fee waiver if you charge $25,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: S$26.75 per transfer, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

Pros: Points never expire. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 3, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1.67. Each DBS point = 2 miles). Earn 3 miles per S$1 spent on all online Flight and Hotel transactions (capped at S$5,000 per month). 10,000 miles renewal bonus if you have to pay card renewal fees.
Cons: All local spend now down to 1.2 miles/$ (since Dec 1, 2013). AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Transfer in blocks of 5000 DBS points = 10,000 miles (on the plus side points don't expire). Per transfer of S$26.75, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

5. Maybank Horizon Platinum Visa

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/persona...visa-card.aspx



Earn 3.2 air miles (8X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on dining, petrol, taxi fares and hotel bookings at Agoda.com/horizon
Earn 2 air miles (5X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on air tickets, travel packages and foreign currency transactions, with a minimal S$300 in a calendar month

Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 spent elsewhere (1 mile for every $2.50 spent).

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($80,000 for foreigners).
Cost: $150 for main, supplementary always free. Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: In blocks of 5,000 points to 2000 Asia Miles or KrisFlyer. S$26.75 fee applies.

Pros: Great for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Complimentary access to selected VIP airport lounges when you charge a minimum of S$400 in a single transaction on air tickets or travel packages to your Card 3 months prior to the date of travel.
Cons: Great ONLY for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Points are valid for 1 year only, expire either on 30 June or 31 December of the same year if not Rewards Infinite member.

6. Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend AMEX

https://www.americanexpress.com/sg/s...nd-credit-card



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 spent on all your eligible purchases with your Card

Earn 2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 equivalent in foreign currency spent overseas on eligible purchases during June and December

Requirements: min. income $50,000 ($60,000 for foreigners). Principal cardholder must be over 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, otherwise $256.80 for main, 2 supplementary cards always free (more available at $80.25 each). Annual fee cannot be waived unless you spend alot.
Miles conversion fee: None - your KrisFlyer miles are transferred to your account directly with no conversion fees or charges.

Pros: None, except for welcome offers (4 complimentary airport lounge access vouchers, one complimentary night with Millennium Hotels and Resorts).

Cons: Simply nothing special - there are better cards available for all types of purchases, including flight tickets, even with all of the bonuses above applied. AMEX not always accepted by merchants.

7. Citibank Rewards Card & Citibank Clear Platinum Card (No longer for new application from 01 June 2015)

http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...CACRENCCHOCALM



Earn 10X Rewards (10 Rewards Points or 4 Miles for every S$1 spent) when you shop for clothes, bags and shoes or at departmental stores or online shopping websites, including SingTel & M1 online bill payment!

Citibank Clear Platinum Card (No longer for new application from 01 June 2015)
http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...CACPENCCHOCALM
Earn 5X Rewards (5 Rewards Points or 2 Miles for every S$1 spend) on Overseas Spend, Dining & Online Shopping.

Pros: Transfer to 11 FFPs & 3 Hotel programs in blocks of 25,000 points=10,000 miles; S$25 fee.

Cons: 10x Citidollars based on MCC code. Very hard to determine for overseas merchants. Points awarded per S$1 spend. Cents not included. Need to call in to Citibank to ask to combine the Citidollars earned before making a transfer.

8. DBS Woman's World MasterCard® Card

http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard-card



10X Rewards for Online Retail Purchases
T&C Here: https://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resource...s_card_tnc.pdf

Pros: Men also can get this card!! DBS points are combined in 1 cardholder's name. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 10, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1. Each DBS point = 2 miles).

Cons: DBS points are valid for 1 year based on card anniversary date. The additional 9X DBS Points for online retail spend in a calendar month will be awarded on the 16th of the next calendar month. If the above days are not working days, the Points will be awarded on the next working day. The additional 9X DBS Points are only applicable to the first S$2,000 online retail spend every calendar month.

9. OCBC Titanium Rewards Card

https://www.ocbc.com/personal-bankin...astercard.html

10x OCBC$ on your shopping Local & Overseas Shopping Transactions, Local & Overseas Department Store Transactions and Local & Overseas Online Transactions.
The remaining 9 OCBC$ will be posted to the Card Account by the end of the next calendar month

https://www.ocbc.com/assets/pdf/card...ons.pdf?rand=1
10,000 KrisFlyer miles requires OCBC$ 25000, For each conversion of OCBC$ to KrisFlyer miles a fee of S$25 will be charged

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Old Mar 14, 16, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by toothpick2 View Post
yes according to milelion
No according to practical experience.
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Old Mar 14, 16, 8:05 am
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Haha, you are quite a funny one. For what it is worth, I'm not sure how wrong one can go when paying a delivery service with a credit card like the UOB PPV. My case in question was Foodmatters and the first time I charged it I checked with UOB afterwards and it counted for 10UNI$ as a Paypal transaction which is the only way that service accepts credit cards. Subsequent months the UNI$ balance looked off and UOB had not credited 10UNI$. Go figure, but hey we are talking UOB here.

Either way, as you are doubtless an experienced credit card optimizer and a smart and sharp cookie, you could start making this thread better and share what food delivery service you used that worked just fine for 10UNi$. Everyone can make claims and say the contributions by people here are poor, but maybe you want to add some actual value for a change and actually share some info that helps others instead of telling everyone actively posting here that we are kind of rubbish .
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Old Mar 14, 16, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by Tyrhung View Post
I believe that if you are currently holding to any of their credit card, the sms should be able to work if the format of the details sent is correct. If i am not wrong, the requirement is that you need to hold at least 1 credit card with them (so they have your income data etc), hence their backend is able to process. I might be wrong, but that's my thought on why only sms method work.
@ Staff - seems the sms method is applicable to only Singaporeans/PRs.

Instructions for a different card:
Apply via SMS for Singapore citizens and PRs
SMS <Yessignature>space<Last 4 digits of existing UOB Card>space<NRIC#> to 77862
For example: SMS Yessignature 7890 S1234567H to 77862.
Click here for the Terms & Conditions for Applying a Principal Card via SMS.

As bolded above, this card is not the dining card - this is the Visa Signature card with 4x payawave miles.
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Old Mar 14, 16, 5:36 pm
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Originally Posted by demue View Post
Haha, you are quite a funny one. For what it is worth, I'm not sure how wrong one can go when paying a delivery service with a credit card like the UOB PPV. My case in question was Foodmatters and the first time I charged it I checked with UOB afterwards and it counted for 10UNI$ as a Paypal transaction which is the only way that service accepts credit cards. Subsequent months the UNI$ balance looked off and UOB had not credited 10UNI$. Go figure, but hey we are talking UOB here.

Either way, as you are doubtless an experienced credit card optimizer and a smart and sharp cookie, you could start making this thread better and share what food delivery service you used that worked just fine for 10UNi$. Everyone can make claims and say the contributions by people here are poor, but maybe you want to add some actual value for a change and actually share some info that helps others instead of telling everyone actively posting here that we are kind of rubbish .
The food delivery service I used was in fact Foodmatters. It used my UOB credit card and got 10UNI$ when ordering my meals. My favorite is the Lentil salad with curry vinaigrette. I have it twice a week, I recommend it.

You should call UOB and the Foodmatters to sort it out.
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Old Mar 14, 16, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by toothpick2 View Post
The food delivery service I used was in fact Foodmatters. It used my UOB credit card and got 10UNI$ when ordering my meals. My favorite is the Lentil salad with curry vinaigrette. I have it twice a week, I recommend it.

You should call UOB and the Foodmatters to sort it out.
Well there you go. Thanks for sharing, see we are getting somewhere . Have you checked / tallied your monthly UNI$ balance? I can tell you only my experience and it was that the first month worked fine at 10UNI$ as verified with UOB CS and then the 2nd and 3rd month did not. No idea why as it was subscription (you know how it work if you use the service) and nothing changed, but of course neither did UOB know and the claimed this vendor, albeit being a Paypal transaction, did not qualify.

Now given the mixed bag that UOB Customer Service is I'm not surprised and argued my case as per T&Cs regarding Paypal (which are vague) and they did a "goodwill" adjustment for my 2nd and 3rd month and insisted that it will not qualify going forward. At that point, I switched the credit card for another month and since then have cancelled the service as the menu got boring after a while (yes lentil salad was good) and portion size was too varying for my taste, but I digress.

In the end, if it still works for you that is great and just shows that this is a tricky area to give definite answers. I think even UOB often does not know why some transactions posts as they do (10x or not), so time and effort to track and contest may not always be worth it to argue things out with them. YMMV
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Old Mar 15, 16, 12:13 am
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Originally Posted by demue View Post
Well there you go. Thanks for sharing, see we are getting somewhere . Have you checked / tallied your monthly UNI$ balance? I can tell you only my experience and it was that the first month worked fine at 10UNI$ as verified with UOB CS and then the 2nd and 3rd month did not. No idea why as it was subscription (you know how it work if you use the service) and nothing changed, but of course neither did UOB know and the claimed this vendor, albeit being a Paypal transaction, did not qualify.

Now given the mixed bag that UOB Customer Service is I'm not surprised and argued my case as per T&Cs regarding Paypal (which are vague) and they did a "goodwill" adjustment for my 2nd and 3rd month and insisted that it will not qualify going forward. At that point, I switched the credit card for another month and since then have cancelled the service as the menu got boring after a while (yes lentil salad was good) and portion size was too varying for my taste, but I digress.

In the end, if it still works for you that is great and just shows that this is a tricky area to give definite answers. I think even UOB often does not know why some transactions posts as they do (10x or not), so time and effort to track and contest may not always be worth it to argue things out with them. YMMV
I've been eating their food for 5 months already and all is fine.
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Old Mar 15, 16, 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by toothpick2 View Post
The quality of his posts far exceed the replies here. It's concise yet detailed. http://milelion.com/2016/03/12/milel...rd-guide-2016/

His posts are also reviewed by replies he gets which he updates.

BTW, I also paid a local food delivery service for a monthly meal subscription via Paypal and it qualified for 10UNI$ so you must have done something wrong.

heres another blog i like to read http://www.cheaponana.com/
Sound a bit defensive maybe I am wrong.

Please please please don't bring those drama from HWZ to here. Appreciate.
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Old Mar 15, 16, 6:07 am
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Sound a bit defensive maybe I am wrong.

Please please please don't bring those drama from HWZ to here. Appreciate.
+1 ^

Lets do it the local way - no confrontations :P
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Old Mar 15, 16, 9:00 am
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Never fear, I am here!

Waiting for my miles from UOB to transfer to Asia Miles (my DBS already transferred in 24 hours). Hopefully should be in this week so I can start planning my award redemption in business class SIN-IAD/DCA. This will be my first Oneworld redemption.
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Old Mar 15, 16, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by yauee View Post
Please please please don't bring those drama from HWZ to here. Appreciate.
+1. For a regular on this thread, I've personally found nothing in the other blogs or sites that contribute insights beyond what already is discussed here in an intelligent, peer-minded and measured manner. May it stay that way.
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Old Mar 15, 16, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by lcpteck View Post
Waiting for my miles from UOB to transfer to Asia Miles (my DBS already transferred in 24 hours). Hopefully should be in this week...
AM transfers are typically 1-3 days longer than KF.
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Old Mar 15, 16, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by carrotjuice View Post
AM transfers are typically 1-3 days longer than KF.
How does does it take to KF?
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Old Mar 15, 16, 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by lcpteck View Post
How does does it take to KF?
From UOB to KF? Haven't tried of late, but before it came in 3-4 days IIRC. It was slower than Citi (2 days), but faster than Maybank (7 days).

Good luck on those Asia Miles redemptions, I hope you'll find the availability you are looking for though I'm sure you have been monitoring it before pulling the trigger on the points transfers.
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Old Mar 15, 16, 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by lcpteck View Post
How does does it take to KF?
You should check the other "Time taken to transfer to KF" thread...
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Old Mar 15, 16, 11:58 pm
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Originally Posted by demue View Post
From UOB to KF? Haven't tried of late, but before it came in 3-4 days IIRC. It was slower than Citi (2 days), but faster than Maybank (7 days).

Good luck on those Asia Miles redemptions, I hope you'll find the availability you are looking for though I'm sure you have been monitoring it before pulling the trigger on the points transfers.
Yeah, have been using the BA site looking here and there. Seems there are QR and CX availability so far. JL totally full.

Maybe there will be more seats open closer to my desired dates. I should confirm my dates first. Need to apply company leave and such as well.
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