Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Singapore Airlines | KrisFlyer
Reload this Page >

SQ Decreases KUL Capacity Further (MI Taking Over More Flights)

SQ Decreases KUL Capacity Further (MI Taking Over More Flights)

Reply

Old Dec 7, 09, 9:15 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP & Lifetime Plat, TK Elite+, SPG Plat, Hyatt Globlalist
Posts: 2,381
Thumbs down SQ Decreases KUL Capacity Further (MI Taking Over More Flights)

SQ will further decrease its capacity to Kuala Lumpur beginning January 2010. MI will take over another daily frequency operated by SQ thereby cutting SQs frequency to KUL to only 17 a week! The new SQ schedule effective January 2010 is as below:

SIN-KUL:
SQ 106, 0835-0930, D X67
SQ 116, 1700-1755, D X67
SQ 118, 1845-1940, D

KUL-SIN:
SQ 107, 1025-1120, D X67
SQ 117, 1850-1945, D X67
SQ 119, 2030-2125, D

The biggest SOL in this reduced capacity seems to be anyone on *A award travel as there is only 1 flight a day during the weekends! Anyone who arrives on a weekend morning now need to spend a good 10-12 hours at SIN!

Edited: It appears that SQ 106 have been zeroed out as well - looks like SQ's frequency might only be down to 12 a week!
nov11 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 7, 09, 10:37 am
  #2  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 11,017
Looks like SQ is phasing KUL out. Is there any announcement or is this just by reading the schedule?

Last edited by TerryK; Dec 7, 09 at 10:54 am
TerryK is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 7, 09, 3:14 pm
  #3  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SJC
Programs: AS MVPG
Posts: 2,037
With Air Asia, Jetstar, and Tiger offering seats on this route for US$20-30, the yield has gone done the drain. If I were SQ, I'd withdraw from this route or let Silk Air run it to keep the frequency.
flyingstudent is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 7, 09, 3:32 pm
  #4  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Programs: Star Alliance, One World, Skyteam, BR, GA, EK, VX, SPG, Marriott, Hyatt, Hilton, IC
Posts: 4,064
http://www.btimes.com.my/articles/20...84300/Article/

SQ 17 flights/week
MI 37 flights/week
General_Flyer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 7, 09, 5:15 pm
  #5  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Singapore
Programs: QF LTG, SQ EGTP, MH Silver, SPG Gold
Posts: 3,940
If MI were part of * alliance this would not be a big deal at all. It's a shame they're not.

But really on a short sector like SIN-KUL, who needs SQ anyway? Smaller plane = quicker disembarkation.
lokijuh is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 7, 09, 6:07 pm
  #6  
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SYD JNB
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 152
Originally Posted by lokijuh View Post
If MI were part of * alliance this would not be a big deal at all. It's a shame they're not.

But really on a short sector like SIN-KUL, who needs SQ anyway? Smaller plane = quicker disembarkation.
But if you are connecting through Singapore, can you have SQ check your luggage through to another airline?
joefiro is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 7, 09, 7:53 pm
  #7  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EXP & Lifetime Plat, TK Elite+, SPG Plat, Hyatt Globlalist
Posts: 2,381
Originally Posted by flyingstudent View Post
With Air Asia, Jetstar, and Tiger offering seats on this route for US$20-30, the yield has gone done the drain. If I were SQ, I'd withdraw from this route or let Silk Air run it to keep the frequency.
I am fine with that as long as SilkAir is available for *A redemption and passengers on SilkAir are given the same privilege as SQ passengers (e.g. KF lounge access etc.). It's only a 55-minute flight after all.
nov11 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 7, 09, 8:38 pm
  #8  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ZRH
Programs: LX HON, FB Plat, AB Gold, BAEC Silver, SPG Gold, Hyatt GP, Hertz Gold, GHA Black
Posts: 465
This is really bad The problem is Silkair is not really reliable in terms of punctuality. I had so many cases of late arrival and aircraft problem on the SIN-KUL sector in the last 6 months. Even the staff in Changi airport confirmed the problem. Silkair seems to be short of aircraft and staff... On top of it you can't use the TG lounge (*G) in KL anymore if it is a Silkair flight.
HKG1111 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 8, 09, 5:32 am
  #9  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Europe
Programs: UA:1K MM, AF:FB-Gold, QR: PC Platinum, FI: Saga Gold
Posts: 2,640
This is a good analogy to airline deregulation in the USA: more people can fly but service levels worsen for everyone. Silkair is no Singapore Airlines.

(I will however say that after 2 weeks in Burma, boarding Silkair in Rangoon felt like being back in the lap of luxury.)
Braniff is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 8, 09, 7:08 am
  #10  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Singapore
Programs: QF LTG, SQ EGTP, MH Silver, SPG Gold
Posts: 3,940
Originally Posted by Braniff View Post
This is a good analogy to airline deregulation in the USA: more people can fly but service levels worsen for everyone. Silkair is no Singapore Airlines.
If you take away ground experiences (such as ability to interline and baggage transfer to airlines other than SQ) and star alliance benefits, in the air how can you say it makes a difference flying SQ over MI on a sector that is 30minutes from leaving the tarmac to hitting the tarmac again? Last time I flew SQ on this sector the service consisted of a small plastic cup of OJ, and no need/point to having IFE (is it even turned on?)
lokijuh is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 8, 09, 7:05 pm
  #11  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Pearl of the Orient
Programs: AA-PlatLife, BA-Gold, SPG-LTP, HL-DIA
Posts: 25,718
For the meantime, I found that I can book a SQ flight but codeshared and sold as AIR INDIA for about US$50 less than on a SQ #. Its in coach though.

Its for Christmas and even the LCC are a tad expensive. So I thought I might as well do the AI route rather than pay full fare on SQ.

I can bank the miles on LH M&M.
Guy Betsy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 8, 09, 7:15 pm
  #12  
Moderator, Hilton Honors
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: hopefully travelling
Programs: up in the air
Posts: 70,742
Originally Posted by Guy Betsy View Post
For the meantime, I found that I can book a SQ flight but codeshared and sold as AIR INDIA for about US$50 less than on a SQ #. Its in coach though.

Its for Christmas and even the LCC are a tad expensive. So I thought I might as well do the AI route rather than pay full fare on SQ.

I can bank the miles on LH M&M.
No status miles though.
Kiwi Flyer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 9, 09, 6:50 pm
  #13  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Continental Gold Elite, United Premier Executive
Posts: 6,766
1. SQ flying SIN-KUL at all is an act of government-mandated vanity these days.

2. What' the hold up on making Silkair a member of Star Alliance?
HeathrowGuy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Dec 9, 09, 7:33 pm
  #14  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: New York, NY, USA
Posts: 11,017
Originally Posted by HeathrowGuy View Post
...2. What' the hold up on making Silkair a member of Star Alliance?
SQ management.
TerryK is offline  
Reply With Quote

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread